Re: [time-nuts] oscillators

2012-08-31 Thread Javier Herrero
El 30/08/2012 20:53, saidj...@aol.com escribió: There are some drawbacks to this type of SC-cut MCXO I would think, and it could possibly be replaced by a much higher performance Symmetricom CSAC, probably at a lower cost and higher availability: * Q-tech MCXO is ITAR controlled, CSAC is not

Re: [time-nuts] oscillators

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi An SC is going to have it's temperature curve centered up around 95C or so. If it's been cut as an OCXO crystal the turns will be up there as well. By the time it gets to room temp, the delta F / delta T is moving mighty fast. Think in terms of multiple ppm/C. A typical cell phone TCXO

[time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread David Kirkby
I've bought an Agilent N9923A portable 2 MHz to 6 GHz vector network analyzer which supports GPS. I assumed it had the GPS bought it, but later found it it needs a GPS unit with a ublox chip set. Are there any ones to avoid, or which are good? Dave

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread Azelio Boriani
Wow, an 8K dollars VNA... and you mind about a $60 GPS unit? On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 9:13 PM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.netwrote: I've bought an Agilent N9923A portable 2 MHz to 6 GHz vector network analyzer which supports GPS. I assumed it had the GPS bought it, but later found it it

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread SAIDJACK
Dave, that depends on which uBlox the unit supports. There are basically three different sizes: AMY, LEA, and NEO. They also sell chip-sets, but only to very large volume customers. Any of the uBlox-6 will be excellent, the choice will depend on form-factor, and also if you need a

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Does it also need an add on board to mount the GPS on as well? Bob On Aug 31, 2012, at 3:13 PM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I've bought an Agilent N9923A portable 2 MHz to 6 GHz vector network analyzer which supports GPS. I assumed it had the GPS bought it, but later

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread David Kirkby
On 31 August 2012 20:34, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.it wrote: Wow, an 8K dollars VNA... and you mind about a $60 GPS unit? Well, as it is a portable device, I was hoping the GPS was built in more for convenience than anything else. It's not the cost of the card I am so worried about,

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread David Kirkby
On 31 August 2012 20:35, saidj...@aol.com wrote: Dave, that depends on which uBlox the unit supports. There are basically three different sizes: AMY, LEA, and NEO. They also sell chip-sets, but only to very large volume customers. It plugs in on USB. Somewhere I read it had to be ublox

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Are you thinking of hooking up an external GPS to the unit? I've never seen one of these VNA's so I'm a little in the dark. Bob On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:52 PM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 31 August 2012 20:34, Azelio Boriani azelio.bori...@screen.it wrote: Wow, an 8K

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi It's not a great receiver, but it works. Back when it first came out, the price was pretty good for what you got. Time marches on and you now can get some very good / very cheap stand alone units. Bob On Aug 31, 2012, at 5:03 PM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 31 August

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread lists
Some of those Microsoft hockey pucks used SIRF III chipset. I would check ebay for that kind of USB GPS. Streets and Trips, well specifically using a notebook for a display, has long been out of favor. So I'm assuming here ST didn't use NEMA interface format. -Original Message- From:

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread David Kirkby
On 31 August 2012 22:03, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi Are you thinking of hooking up an external GPS to the unit? I've never seen one of these VNA's so I'm a little in the dark. Bob The Agilent N9923A is a portable battery powered VNA to 4 or 6 GHz (depening on what option you have.

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
On Aug 31, 2012, at 4:05 PM, David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: I don't have it yet, but bought it on eBay today from the seller agilentused which is Agilent, and sells used/ex-demo units which have been reconditioned, and have a fully warranty. Since I have not [...] I bought my

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread Azelio Boriani
In my opinion it uses the NMEA sentences. For the purpose of recording position and time, the NMEA is enough and usually the GPSes receivers output by default the NMEA sentences. Of course you can't discipline anything by the USB port, so the external 10MHz is mandatory. On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread Don Latham
I have a gps called ambicom with a usb that works with Msoft streets directly. Don Bob Camp Hi It's not a great receiver, but it works. Back when it first came out, the price was pretty good for what you got. Time marches on and you now can get some very good / very cheap stand alone units.

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread lists
These mapping programs tend to fall back to NEMA, but also have proprietary formats. (Certainly true of Garmin and Delorme.) Now I wonder if by specifying a ST USB GPS they want whatever proprietary format MS used. That is, it would have made more sense that if they wanted NEMA, they would

Re: [time-nuts] oscillators

2012-08-31 Thread Jim Lux
On 8/31/12 7:06 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi An SC is going to have it's temperature curve centered up around 95C or so. If it's been cut as an OCXO crystal the turns will be up there as well. By the time it gets to room temp, the delta F / delta T is moving mighty fast. Think in terms of multiple

Re: [time-nuts] ublox chip sets - what GPS device should I buy?

2012-08-31 Thread Said Jackson
You could get our GPSTCXO eval kit. It has a uBlox gps, supports NMEA GGA and RMC messages, has on-board USB, and outputs a disciplined 10MHz with reasonably good phase noise. Two flies captured in one. Probably costs only as much as shipping for your analyzer did :) No idea if it will be

Re: [time-nuts] oscillators

2012-08-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, that gets you back to the basics of really major delta F / delta T slopes. Bob On Aug 31, 2012, at 8:55 PM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 8/31/12 7:06 AM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi An SC is going to have it's temperature curve centered up around 95C or so. If it's been cut as an

Re: [time-nuts] oscillators

2012-08-31 Thread Jim Lux
On 8/31/12 7:16 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi Ok, that gets you back to the basics of really major delta F / delta T slopes. Bob yeah.. but as long as you know what the curve is.. the NCO has a huge range (after all, we already have to tune over 500 kHz...a few hundred Hz isn't a big deal. A