Re: [time-nuts] Remote GPS Oscillator Steering

2013-04-19 Thread Christopher Brown
I happen to have a less than ideal ham shack/lab and antenna setup. The shack/lab is second floor in the rear. The main antenna is an inverted L 30ft straight back from the shack. There are about 50 pounds of type 31 ferrite in the house suppressing _everything_ to the point that I cannot

[time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
Has anybody tried using the AD5791 20bit DAC for EFC control ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-19 Thread EWKehren
As one of our digital loop projects we took a very, very close look at it, but thought once you consider the application, requirements of external references, its influence on temperature performance and cost, a dithered 20 bit LTC 1655 held at 0.1 C is as good a solution. Have not actually

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-19 Thread Herbert Poetzl
On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:20:05AM -0400, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: As one of our digital loop projects we took a very, very close look at it, but thought once you consider the application, requirements of external references, its influence on temperature performance and cost, a

[time-nuts] Working on new NanoBSD w/NTPns for Net4501image...

2013-04-19 Thread Jason Rabel
The other day I got sidetracked and managed to build another Soekris Net4501 with an Oncore UT+ I had laying around. My old CF images from ~2008 have always served me well, but the problem being they require a 256MB or greater CF card. Seeing as how I had a stack of old 64MB 128MB cards lying

Re: [time-nuts] Working on new NanoBSD w/NTPns for Net4501image...

2013-04-19 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
Jason, a few months ago I was able to build a FreeBSD 9 system using standard NTP. It involved a lot of pain, a lot of help from PHK, and a lot of handwaving, but in the end it worked. I'm happy to share config info if you'd like -- contact me off list. John On 4/19/2013 9:50 AM,

Re: [time-nuts] LTC6957 Low Phase Noise Buffer/Driver

2013-04-19 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin Rick, On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 10:20:09 -0700 Rick Karlquist rich...@karlquist.com wrote: Volker Esper wrote: I have been looking into low jitter triggers for sampling systems recently and will probably end up using a discrete differential amplifier driving ECL logic. Why discrete?

Re: [time-nuts] pin-wheel antenna

2013-04-19 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:16:24 -0700 Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: There's a very nice picture of a pinwheel from Novatel on the back cover of the March issue of GPS world.. Has anyone a digital (or scanned) copy of that picture? It's kind of difficult (i.e. impossible) to get GPS world

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 20130419134411.gb29...@mail.13thfloor.at, Herbert Poetzl writes: On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 09:20:05AM -0400, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Texas Instruments has a number of precision DACs for a very reasonable price, for example the DAC1220 (20bit low power delta-sigma, ~8 USD) and precision

Re: [time-nuts] pin-wheel antenna

2013-04-19 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/19/13 7:30 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:16:24 -0700 Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: There's a very nice picture of a pinwheel from Novatel on the back cover of the March issue of GPS world.. Has anyone a digital (or scanned) copy of that picture? It's kind of

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Far-out space navigation from sideways satnav signals

2013-04-19 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 13:38:50 -0700 Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: What's the adev of pulsars at long times? How long is long? Where is the knee of the curve? I remember reading something about 10^-18 long term (iirc 1year), but cannot find where i read it. But to acheive that

Re: [time-nuts] AD5791 for EFC control ?

2013-04-19 Thread paul swed
Thats a great question and not to distract the thread. The modern references seem far superior to the old ones that might be as simple as a zener diode. However the internal references are almost always in a semi temperature controlled environment near the oven. Kind of interesting trade offs.

[time-nuts] Trimble T-Bolt Lock Indication

2013-04-19 Thread Richard Solomon
Dumb question time ... I use T-Bolt Mon to see how my T-Bolt is working. From a cold start, what do I look for to indicate the output is locked to GPS ? 73, Dick, W1KSZ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] pin-wheel antenna

2013-04-19 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Jim, On 04/19/2013 04:47 PM, Jim Lux wrote: On 4/19/13 7:30 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:16:24 -0700 Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: There's a very nice picture of a pinwheel from Novatel on the back cover of the March issue of GPS world.. Has anyone a digital (or

[time-nuts] Flea at MIT on Sunday- STATUS

2013-04-19 Thread J. Forster
Hi, As some of you may know, the Boston Marathon bombers killed an MIT Police Officer about 100 yards from the site of the Sunday MIT Flea Market. MIT is now shut down, for today at least. One of the suspects is dead. Another is at large in Watertown close by. The whole area is on 'lock-down'

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Far-out space navigation from sideways satnav signals

2013-04-19 Thread Peter Monta
Hi Hal, Why are X-Ray pulsars better than radio pulsars for navigation? My impression is that it's easier to manage all-sky coverage at x-ray with a small spacecraft package (I think millisecond pulsars generally emit at both microwave and x-ray). Also there's some interstellar

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Far-out space navigation from sideways satnav signals

2013-04-19 Thread Jim Lux
On 4/19/13 11:47 AM, Peter Monta wrote: Hi Hal, Why are X-Ray pulsars better than radio pulsars for navigation? My impression is that it's easier to manage all-sky coverage at x-ray with a small spacecraft package (I think millisecond pulsars generally emit at both microwave and x-ray).

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-19 Thread Alexander Wright
On 07/04/13 21:55, WB6BNQ wrote: Hi Alec, I am going to agree with Robert (G8RPI) on his assessment, particularly as the dip switches are clearly visible in one of the pictures. Although I wonder why Robert feels unfortunate about the [ two chip DDS arrangement ] ? It matters not the number

[time-nuts] HP58503A XO Update

2013-04-19 Thread David Hooke
Hi All, To recap, I'm trying to determine how best to get a good shop timing reference from a TBOLT (good new-style XO, LH as 2nd oven), HP 58503A and Symmetricom 58503B. Here we are 6 months later, and after swapping oscillators, updating antennas and GPS distribution amps, I've

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-19 Thread Alexander Wright
Success! I've managed to set mine to 10MHz. I've documented this on my blog: http://blog.m0tei.co.uk/post/2013/04/20/Mystery-Aircraft-Parts-and-Atomic-Clocks Thanks to those who offered suggestions. Regards Alec ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] FE-5680A help/identification (again!)

2013-04-19 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Skip, You might have seen my reference to the small board in the 'variation 2' FE-5680. I looked at the signal on the orange lead and found only about 2.02 Vdc. The orange lead goes to the output of a D-A converter on the small board. So, on a hunch, I used a 10-turn pot to put 0-5V

Re: [time-nuts] Changing FE-5650A frequency?

2013-04-19 Thread WB6BNQ
Alexander Wright wrote: On 07/04/13 21:55, WB6BNQ wrote: Hi Alec, I am going to agree with Robert (G8RPI) on his assessment, particularly as the dip switches are clearly visible in one of the pictures. Although I wonder why Robert feels unfortunate about the [ two chip DDS