Re: [time-nuts] GPS with 10KHz output

2013-09-20 Thread Anthony Stirk
Just as a note you can reconfigure the time pulse output any of the Ublox modules (doesn't have to be the timing module) via commands to give out a pulse up to : 7 Series :0.25 Hz … 10 MHz NEO-6G/Q/M/P/V : 0.25 Hz to 1 kHz NEO-6T :0.25 Hz to 10 MHz Don't know if this helps anyone. Cheers,

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with 10KHz output

2013-09-20 Thread Anthony Stirk
Additional information : The Ublox NEO-6T divides their internal 48MHz clock down so 10Mhz doesn't divide correctly and is jittery but 8Mhz is fine. Anthony On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 7:27 AM, Anthony Stirk upu...@gmail.com wrote: Just as a note you can reconfigure the time pulse output any of

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There is no instruction booklet for the NTBW50's and LH. The program is targeted at a TBolt. I think it's great that it happens to work at all for the NTBW50. The stuff about the filter settings has been noted by and posted by several members here on the list. I've seen it on my units here.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS with 10KHz output

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The biggest issue is sawtooth correction. To take care of the sawtooth issues you need to sync up the correction data with the signal into the GPSDO. That's a lot easier when both come out once a second than when one is continuous and the other is still only once a second. Bob On Sep 20,

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread quartz55
I may also look into a DIY choke ring for my antenna. With the large pole I have now, it will be no problem to put a rather large ground plane under the antenna if that will help. I'll do some searching on that. I'll keep the thing running, but I may have to switch it at some point if I get

Re: [time-nuts] Varian 921-0062 ion pump supply question

2013-09-20 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Corby, What pins are the line and the neutral connected to at the moment? What pins are linked? What you describe is typical of a 110/120/220/240 setup with the windings between 1 8 and 29 being the 10V taps.  You could try connecting a low voltage AC supply (between5 and 15 v from a

Re: [time-nuts] Varian 921-0062 ion pump supply question

2013-09-20 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Corby, I had a look at some circuits and it’s pretty much what I expected. The 120V tap supplies control relays including the external pressure relay (pin F on rear panel connector, pin E is neutral) and neon indicators. The supply to the HV transformer is relay controlled so you would have to

[time-nuts] Space mission comes to an end becuase of a computer time tagging problem

2013-09-20 Thread David J Taylor
NASA's Deep Space Comet Hunter Mission Comes to an end The news release includes this paragraph: After losing contact with the spacecraft last month, mission controllers spent several weeks trying to uplink commands to reactivate its onboard systems. Although the exact cause of the loss is

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Dave wrote: We have plenty outages here, so I may look into a UPS of some sort but I have a rather large generator that I always turn on after about 1/2 hour or so. The UPS is to keep master oscillators (and for some of us, ovenized voltage standards) running uninterrupted from the time of

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread quartz55
I was thinking of keeping a couple of batterys floated across the supply, since it will run on 24V. I'll have to figure out what I'll need for maybe 2 hours. Not sure what it's drawing now at 30V, but wouldn't be hard to measure. Couple more things. What is the foliage filter and will it

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO vs Rb standard

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Stewart
Bob, Does your Rb send the serial out on the DB-9, or did you solder in a connection?  I'm looking at mine and it looks like pin 8 is connected to something and pin 9 seems to come in to an empty SMT slot for a cap or resistor.  I was thinking of bringing a ribbon cable out between the

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If the unit is dropping into holdover, something is wrong with the number of sat's it's seeing. If you have saved a location properly, it will only go into holdover when it's got zero sats. If it does not believe it's got a proper location it will drop into holdover when it goes below 4

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO vs Rb standard

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi All of my FE Rb's have serial out of a 9 pin D connector. They bring power (+15 and +5) in on that connector, and put 1 pps and 10 MHz out on the same 9 pin D. There are (apparently) dozens of variations of the FE 5680. There is no single standard for what is hooked up where. I'd be *very*

Re: [time-nuts] JL LC_XO Performance

2013-09-20 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
So, I take it no one has looked at these units yet? Thanks, John Westmoreland On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:51 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. j...@westmorelandengineering.com wrote: Hello All, I just spoke with JL - I should have one of the Jackson Labs' LC_XO's in my hands soon (TCXO

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread Jim Sanford
Mine insists on determining a negative altitude. sometimes it's called a good position, sometimes not. Eventually, it becomes 'good even with -altitude! Now I understand why it goes in and out of holdover, but what about the bad altitude?? Jim wb4...@amsat.org On 9/20/2013 6:22 PM, Bob

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi GPS uses a model of the earth. It calculates position relative to this model. The model does *not* correspond to sea level. It's very common to be driving along the beach and see negative altitude numbers with an honest GPS. If you are located within 100' of sea level, you may see negative

Re: [time-nuts] JL LC_XO Performance

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I'd bet that Said has seen a few of them ….. Bob On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:37 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. j...@westmorelandengineering.com wrote: So, I take it no one has looked at these units yet? Thanks, John Westmoreland On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 7:51 PM, John C. Westmoreland,

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO vs Rb standard

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Stewart
Understood.  If I do anything, it will probably be to cut pins 8 and 9 at the board side of the connector and route the serial connections there.  I dislike opening this thing up any more often than I have to.  Thanks for all the info. Bob From: Bob Camp

Re: [time-nuts] JL LC_XO Performance

2013-09-20 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Bob, Oh yes - but he would want to refrain from comment I would think. Regards, John On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi I'd bet that Said has seen a few of them ….. Bob On Sep 20, 2013, at 6:37 PM, John C. Westmoreland, P.E.

Re: [time-nuts] Space mission comes to an end becuase of a computer time tagging problem

2013-09-20 Thread Mark C. Stephens
Winders? -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of David J Taylor Sent: Saturday, 21 September 2013 2:51 AM To: Time-nuts mailing list Subject: [time-nuts] Space mission comes to an end becuase of a computer time tagging problem

Re: [time-nuts] Space mission comes to an end becuase of a computer time tagging problem

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Low bid wrist watch used as time base? - I'd bet there is some form of master time tick in their RTOS that keeps everything pumping. Loose the time tick (or the time tick count) and it all goes away… As the onboard computers accumulate radiation induced

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread Paul Berger
Hi: My Nortel unit seems to go into holdover when LH is still reporting one usable satellite. When doing a survey it would go into holdover below four because I believe it is doing 3D position samples which would require four. On a related note I picked up some 110 pin Z-Pack connectors,

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you have one *good* sat, it should stay out of holdover. Bob On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:01 PM, Paul Berger phb@gmail.com wrote: Hi: My Nortel unit seems to go into holdover when LH is still reporting one usable satellite. When doing a survey it would go into holdover below four

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread quartz55
I'm thinking I was dreaming because it's still at 468, like before. It is probably from when I was moving the antenna around and didn't turn the unit off and of course I didn't write it down. Still wondering if holdover can be reset without turning it off. Happy equinox. Dave

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread Jim Sanford
I'm 1250' ABOVE sea Level. LH currently reports an altitude of -2500'. What's up with this?? Jim On 9/20/2013 7:29 PM, Bob Camp wrote: Hi GPS uses a model of the earth. It calculates position relative to this model. The model does *not* correspond to sea level. It's very common to be

Re: [time-nuts] New NTBW50AA

2013-09-20 Thread James Tucker
LH has provisions for various reset levels; I don't know if they apply to the Nortel. Try 'r', and see where that leads. JimT Sent from *my* galaxy (Nexus). On Sep 20, 2013 9:03 PM, quartz55 quart...@hughes.net wrote: I'm thinking I was dreaming because it's still at 468, like before. It is

[time-nuts] Leap second smear at Google

2013-09-20 Thread Christopher Quarksnow
Besides the famous Android stint described in Google bug 5485 https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5485 that took 2 years to fix, so many Android phones system clocks were 15 seconds fast then, I just found the source of another discrepancy where Google spreads the leap second offset

Re: [time-nuts] Leap second smear at Google

2013-09-20 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Christopher, Obviously GOOG needs a time-nut on their staff! Interesting stuff! John W. On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Christopher Quarksnow cquarks...@gmail.com wrote: Besides the famous Android stint described in Google bug 5485 https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=5485

[time-nuts] Varian ion pump supply works!

2013-09-20 Thread cdelect
Thanks for the inputs! I ended up disconnecting the TX and powering up the windings separately to figure out the wiring. The wire on pin 8 did indeed to turn out to be mis-wired! The added taps allowed for 120/240 or 100/200VAC inputs. Got it wired back up and it's working fine at 120VAC now!