Re: [time-nuts] GPS to H-Maser comparison

2013-10-04 Thread mc235960
Truly astonishing. I see nothing in my ntp gps data and unfortunately was not logging my thunderbolt. Le 4 oct. 2013 à 05:56, Jim Palfreyman a écrit : Hi all, If you go to this page: http://users.on.net/~cdadsl/ you will see some graphs (all in UT). Notice the larger than usual bump on Oct

Re: [time-nuts] A man with two clocks...

2013-10-04 Thread Collins, Graham
No, my code is not posted anywhere but I would be glad to email it to anyone interested. Cheers, Graham -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Phil Genera Sent: October-03-13 6:44 PM To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] A man with two clocks...

2013-10-04 Thread Didier Juges
Max, This is a very interesting project and well documented, thank you! Didier KO4BB David J Taylor david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk wrote: Among my time nut toys is a Consumer grade GPS clock and a similar WWVB clock. The WWVB clock consistently runs about 0.2 seconds ahead of the GPS one. I

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO choices

2013-10-04 Thread Paul
The Novus at www.synreference.net Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:24 PM, Paul tic-...@bodosom.net wrote: I'm looking for a new, ready to go, inexpensive desktop GPSDO. So far I've only found the Fury and Thunderbolt E. Are there other reasonable choices e.g. the J R Miller

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 4060 Cesium Time Frequency Standard, Datum

2013-10-04 Thread Dan Kemppainen
On 10/2/2013 10:34 PM, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: Hi guys, I am going to pull it apart this weekend and do some more exploring. Hope to get some pictures for reference. I think I will make up some extender cables so I can operate the CBT assembly away from the main chassis.

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO choices

2013-10-04 Thread Mark Spencer
Hi Paul, I purchased one of the Miller units and it more than met my expectations (that were set by the description on his web site and the information I was able to find on the web.)   I also purchased a Fury which also more than met my expectations.   I would have no issues repeating either

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 4060 Cesium Time Frequency Standard, Datum

2013-10-04 Thread Tom Miller
Hi Dan, Yes, it is Cesium Beam Tube. Maybe someone can tell me the best way to search the time-nuts archive. Do you need to download all the files to a common DB? Regards, Tom - Original Message - From: Dan Kemppainen d...@irtelemetrics.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday,

[time-nuts] trimble antenna connector

2013-10-04 Thread Eric Garner
why do older thunderbolts use an F connector for the antenna? (the current version uses a BNC). It seems like it needlessly complicates installation at a base station. I've always wondered this. -- --Eric _ Eric Garner

[time-nuts] exponential+linear fit

2013-10-04 Thread Jim Lux
I'm trying to find a good way to do a combination exponential/linear fit (for baseline removal). It's modeling phase for a moving source plus a thermal transient, so the underlying physics is the linear term (the phase varies linearly with time, since the velocity is constant) plus the

Re: [time-nuts] trimble antenna connector

2013-10-04 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi Trimble recommend 75R CATV or similar cable for the Thunderbolt as it's lower loss (even with the mismatch loss to 50R it's an advantage), hence the F type plugs. Adaptors are cheap and available even here in the UK where the F type is a fairly new entry into the market. Using 75R cable

Re: [time-nuts] trimble antenna connector

2013-10-04 Thread Björn
Hi Eric, Because they were designed to use cheap 75ohm cable-tv/satellite cables which usually go with F connectors. The companion Bullet antenna also have F connector. From the Tbolt manual RG-59 is a 75 ohm coaxial cable. The ThunderBolt and Bullet II HE antenna are compatible with 75 ohm

Re: [time-nuts] trimble antenna connector

2013-10-04 Thread David McGaw
They recommended using 75 ohm TV cable with F connectors as being low-loss and cheap. The 50-75 ohm mismatch is negligible in this application. David On 10/4/13 12:38 PM, Eric Garner wrote: why do older thunderbolts use an F connector for the antenna? (the current version uses a BNC). It

Re: [time-nuts] exponential+linear fit

2013-10-04 Thread Marek Peca
Hello, Jim, On Fri, 4 Oct 2013, Jim Lux wrote: I'm trying to find a good way to do a combination exponential/linear fit (for baseline removal). It's modeling phase for a moving source plus a thermal transient, so the underlying physics is the linear term (the phase varies linearly with

Re: [time-nuts] trimble antenna connector

2013-10-04 Thread Richard Solomon
I expect because the cable that was used was RG-6 and the easiest (read: cheapest) connector was the F connector. How would you like to see your cable installer work with BNC connectors !! 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 10/4/2013 9:38 AM, Eric Garner wrote: why do older thunderbolts use an F connector

Re: [time-nuts] Looking for 1 GHz low phase noise amplifier

2013-10-04 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
Thanks for the info. I wouldn't have suspected those little gain blocks were so good, and the voltage bias problem makes sense. Rick On 9/30/2013 5:53 AM, Garry Thorp wrote: Mini-Circuits' GALI- series of InGaP MMICs work pretty well. They typically have ~4dB NF, and the noise performance

Re: [time-nuts] FTS 4060 Cesium Time Frequency Standard, Datum

2013-10-04 Thread Rex
On 10/4/2013 9:41 AM, Tom Miller wrote: Maybe someone can tell me the best way to search the time-nuts archive. Do you need to download all the files to a common DB? Regards, Tom I usually use this for time-nuts searches... http://www.mail-archive.com/time-nuts@febo.com/info.html

Re: [time-nuts] exponential+linear fit

2013-10-04 Thread Joseph Gwinn
On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 14:30:40 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: -- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 10:38:07 -0700 From: Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts]

Re: [time-nuts] GPSDO choices

2013-10-04 Thread Al Wolfe
Paul, I picked up a TrueTime XL-AK for under $200 on eBay a couple of years ago. Advertised at better than 1 x 10 -12. RS232 interface and 1 PPS out as well as 10 mhz out and many options. Seems to work well with any of the 5 volt antennas I've used. One rack unit high. Have been

Re: [time-nuts] trimble antenna connector

2013-10-04 Thread Tom Miller
You might TDR an F connector splice once. the F connectors are really pretty good. Tom - Original Message - From: Richard Solomon w1...@earthlink.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] trimble antenna connector I expect because

Re: [time-nuts] exponential+linear fit

2013-10-04 Thread Jim Lux
On 10/4/13 1:18 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote: On Fri, 04 Oct 2013 14:30:40 -0400, time-nuts-requ...@febo.com wrote: -- Message: 4 Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2013 10:38:07 -0700 From: Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement

Re: [time-nuts] exponential+linear fit

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Melia
Hi Joe that sounds like a system I was thinking of suggesting to Jim. I wrote some iterative code on a time share bureau machine in the late60s. make a guess at kx values and let the prog spit out k values for a dk/dt minimum then chose another set of starters an see if it finishes in

Re: [time-nuts] exponential+linear fit

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Melia
Jim it may not be helpful but had you thoughtof expanding the exponential as the first few terms of an infinite series to see if it simplifies fitting? Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:16 PM

Re: [time-nuts] exponential+linear fit

2013-10-04 Thread Marek Peca
Dear Jim, I'm removing a slowly varying bias term from fairly noisy data. Maybe several 10s of thousands of data points, And I want to do it quickly on a slow processor. I think the LTI framework should work very well for that; easy fixpoint implementation etc. Since I am a space fan,

Re: [time-nuts] exponential+linear fit (Joseph Gauthier)

2013-10-04 Thread Joseph Gauthier
You might like this free MATLAB toolbox: http://www.mathworks.com.au/matlabcentral/fileexchange/24443-slm-shape-language-modeling Once you figure out how to use it, it works very well for all types of fits. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] A man with two clocks...

2013-10-04 Thread Max Robinson
Still laughing. Actually I did it aurally. The GPS clock announces the time on the hour with a series of beeps similar to the old BBC time and the WWVB clock has an alarm which I can set to sound on the hour. The time interval is an estimation. Someday I will use a microphone connected to a