Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt tuning DAC theory of operation

2014-01-05 Thread MailLists
On a later version, the Trimble/Nortel 45k, there are a few obvious HW differences (lousy Rx, bigger FPGA - XC5204, second Flash EEPROM). The PWM is generated differentially (better CMR) in the FPGA (output on pins 12, 13) registered, synchronously with the squared OCXO output signal to reduce

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt 1pps

2014-01-05 Thread Didier Juges
I may have posted this link before. It is on topic, even though I was using coax cable: http://ko4bb.com/Test_Equipment/CoaxCableMatching.php It would be easy to do the same experiment with cat-5 cable. I would expect the pictures to look somewhat similar. Didier KO4BB Tom Van Baak

[time-nuts] Trimble Studio, what is it?

2014-01-05 Thread Chris Wilson
05/01/2014 10:57 I see occasional references to Trimble Studio here. What is it please? An alternative to Lady Heather for Thunderbolts, or have I missed the plot entirely? Thanks. -- Best Regards, Chris Wilson. mailto: ch...@chriswilson.tv

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Studio, what is it?

2014-01-05 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 4:58 AM, Chris Wilson ch...@chriswilson.tv wrote: 05/01/2014 10:57 I see occasional references to Trimble Studio here. What is it please? An alternative to Lady Heather for Thunderbolts, or have I missed the plot entirely? Thanks. I just picked up a copy based on

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Studio, what is it?

2014-01-05 Thread Graeme Zimmer
Hi Chris, I see occasional references to Trimble Studio here. What is it please? For a list of features, see: http://www.wavedigm.com/xe/studio That page also has a Users Guide and the application itself. regards Zim ___

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Studio, what is it?

2014-01-05 Thread quartz55
I found it here and the FTDI USB serial bus driver and the manuals. http://www.sectron.eu/products/3-results-of-finding/1558-trimble-gps-studio-for-download.html I haven't tried it yet. Dave - Original Message - From: Graeme Zimmer To: Chris Wilson ; Discussion of precise time

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Studio, what is it?

2014-01-05 Thread Chris Wilson
I found it here and the FTDI USB serial bus driver and the manuals. http://www.sectron.eu/products/3-results-of-finding/1558-trimble-gps-studio-for-download.html I haven't tried it yet. Dave 05/01/2014 16:21 Thanks Graeme, Bryan and Dave, I have it downloaded, will have a play with it

Re: [time-nuts] WWV/WWVH audio simulator?

2014-01-05 Thread Jayson Smith
Hi, Wow, those recordings are very interesting! Late in that series, there's one which sounds like a direct feed of WWVH for a few minutes. This really points out what all is lost by the time the signal gets to air. The phone services aren't much better, since everything above 4KHZ is lost,

Re: [time-nuts] WWV/WWVH audio simulator?

2014-01-05 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX
Replicating the WWV/WWVB audio is impractical given the various weather and other timely messages. One could use the Linux festival voice syntheses package, which gives a choice of voices. On 01/05/2014 07:50 AM, Jayson Smith wrote: Hi, Wow, those recordings are very interesting! Late in

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065A serial number list

2014-01-05 Thread johnk0...@juno.com
Corby, my 5065A has s/n 2816A01605 John W Cress K0GCJ -- Original Message -- From: cdel...@juno.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] HP 5065A serial number list Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:57:33 -0800 As promised here is a list of all the HP 5065A units I have come

Re: [time-nuts] WWV/WWVH audio simulator?

2014-01-05 Thread DaveH
This is by design The POTS (Plain Old Telephone System) specifies a bandwidth of 300Hz to 3,400Hz. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_old_telephone_service They are trying to cram as many channels into as little bandwidth as possible and the greater the frequency response they provide, the

Re: [time-nuts] WWV/WWVH audio simulator?

2014-01-05 Thread Robert LaJeunesse
The US POTS is digitized at 8KHz sample rate, so Nyquist says the highest frequency you can accurately digitize is 4KHz. Allow some for a (fancy digital) filter and 3400Hz is about the best you can expect. As for T1, almost right. The 8K samples per second are u-law processed to 8 bits each for

Re: [time-nuts] WWV/WWVH audio simulator?

2014-01-05 Thread DaveH
DERP -- you are right. T1 does 24 voice channels, not 16. Thanks for the heads up! Dave -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Robert LaJeunesse Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2014 11:33 To: Discussion of precise time and

Re: [time-nuts] Trimble Thunderbolt 1pps

2014-01-05 Thread Hal Murray
att...@kinali.ch said: Also keep in mind that RS-232 relies on the voltage going negative to encode a 1. I.e. getting 0V is not enough and might only work by chance with some RS-232 receivers. I think there are 2 parts to this discussion. What do the specs say, and what actually happens in

Re: [time-nuts] 'CPLDs for clock dividers' Thread

2014-01-05 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello All, I was looking at the archives - what was the outcome of this: Thanks to everyone for their advice. I bought a CoolRunner II development board (only $39!) and will let you know how it goes. Matt On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Matt Ettus boyscout at gmail.com

Re: [time-nuts] 'CPLDs for clock dividers' Thread

2014-01-05 Thread Hal Murray
I was looking at the archives - what was the outcome of this: What level of nuttiness are you interested in? CPLDs or FPGAs are neat because you can toss all sorts of stuff into them. If you do that, you introduce opportunities for power supply level noise coupling. If you have something

Re: [time-nuts] 'CPLDs for clock dividers' Thread

2014-01-05 Thread Tom Minnis
I am working on a PLL design that uses the Lattice MX02-256 for the dividers and XOR phase detector. I have not made any measurements on it yet but will report back when it happens. On 1/5/2014 7:37 PM, Hal Murray wrote: I was looking at the archives - what was the outcome of this: What

Re: [time-nuts] 'CPLDs for clock dividers' Thread

2014-01-05 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello Tom, Thanks for replying. I will be interested to see what you end up with for jitter, phase noise, and propagation delay; to name a few. Looks like an interesting part from the datasheet. Thanks, John W. On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:29 PM, Tom Minnis tom_min...@att.net wrote: I am

Re: [time-nuts] 'CPLDs for clock dividers' Thread

2014-01-05 Thread Ulrich Bangert
John, I have tried to incorporate the digital dividers of a linear phase comparator into a CPLD. While it worked in principle as planned I had lots of problems when the slopes of the input signals came close to each other, this being due to CPLDs or FPGAs are neat because you can toss all

[time-nuts] sand9 TCMO

2014-01-05 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello All, I thought this may be of interest to the group - a start-up company - Sand9 - has developed a temperature controlled MEMS oscillator (TCMO): http://www.sand9.com/product/tcmo/ . Best Regards, John Westmoreland ___ time-nuts mailing list --