Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread Charles Steinmetz
One of my clients had exactly that problem with radar detectors in parked cars interfering with its satellite earth stations. In that case, the answer was about three years. Did the FCC actually DO anything about these things ? Yes, it eventually initiated a rulemaking and

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread Brian Lloyd
On 1/9/14 12:20 AM, Joe Leikhim wrote: GPS jamming, intentional or not is pretty serious, and the FCC takes this seriously, but unless you have some pretty hard evidence they may not find it. In my case my most interesting outage was when I lost all GPS while over the Atlantic ocean between

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread Hal Murray
br...@lloyd.com said: navigation system that is going up. For that matter, is anyone running one of the new multi-system receivers? I notice that Garmin is selling them as a matter of course now. The prevalence of jamming might be the reason why. Aren't the alternatives using frequencies

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:21 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote: br...@lloyd.com said: navigation system that is going up. For that matter, is anyone running one of the new multi-system receivers? I notice that Garmin is selling them as a matter of course now. The prevalence

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread Joe Leikhim
I wonder what the FCC does if it discovers it is another governmental agency that is doing the jamming? Probably not much since their charter does not allow them jurisdiction of other federal agencies. Your experience reminds me of the time I was on the beach in Key West and a matte black

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread SAIDJACK
The latest receivers are surprisingly resilient to GPS jamming. We tried jamming effects on all sorts of different GPS units ourselves, and the M12's go out right away for example, while the uBlox units are tough to jam. The new generation 7 ublox with Glonass etc should be even harder to

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread Graeme Zimmer
Hi Brian, Thanks for the fascinating story! For that matter, is anyone running one of the new multi-system receivers? I hope to play with Resolution SMT GG which is the Multi-GNSS version of the Desolution SMT. What I'm keen to find out is which of the standard GPS diagnostic software

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread J. L. Trantham
I have had loss of GPS position on a 'hand-held' unit (Garmin GPSMAP 396) when flying into PNS. When I switch to tower frequency (119.9 MHz) the unit loses its position. I think it is related to some 'spur' related to the #1 Nav/Com (King KY197) being tuned to that frequency. If I replace the

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread Brian Lloyd
On 1/9/14 7:53 PM, J. L. Trantham wrote: I have had loss of GPS position on a 'hand-held' unit (Garmin GPSMAP 396) when flying into PNS. When I switch to tower frequency (119.9 MHz) the unit loses its position. I think it is related to some 'spur' related to the #1 Nav/Com (King KY197)

Re: [time-nuts] WAAS.....

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Atkinson
Hi, This is a known problem. It's leakage form the local oscillator (LO) of the Ky197. The KYa97 has a 10.7 MHz IF and high side local oscillator. So the LO is 119.9 + 10.7 = 130.6MHz. 12th harmonic is in the GPS bandwith. Cure is a notch filer on the KY197 antenna connector. examples are a TED