Re: [time-nuts] Setting Windows XP clock.

2014-07-14 Thread David J Taylor
For your interest, this is what NTP reports when running on a VMware player under Windows 8.1 update 1: http://www.satsignal.eu/mrtg/performance_web-server.php Well with +/- 0.5 milliseconds. This is the host PC which is a Windows stratum-1 server (Sure GPS/PPS synced):

[time-nuts] time.windows.com statistics

2014-07-14 Thread Tim Shoppa
On the subject of time.windows.com, it is usually up but it seems to be a pretty cruddy source of NTP time. The actual source is somewhere in the Akamai cloud (so even if it resolves to the same numeric address twice, tha Akamai cloud may in fact be farming it out to geographically different

Re: [time-nuts] time.windows.com statistics

2014-07-14 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Tim Shoppa tsho...@gmail.com wrote: Wonder out loud if using NTP server in a load-distributing cloud will just intrinsically be randomly cruddy, or if this is somehow engineering a source which is often good enough for SNTP users but obviously inappropriate

Re: [time-nuts] time.windows.com statistics

2014-07-14 Thread Kenton A. Hoover
But a perfectly reasonable source of time for SNTP where you just slam the clock, rather than NTP where you're figuring out drift... --  Kenton A. Hoover kenton . nemersonhoover org +1 415 830 5843 On 14 July 2014 at 05.:23.14, Tim Shoppa (tsho...@gmail.com) wrote: On the subject of

Re: [time-nuts] time.windows.com statistics

2014-07-14 Thread Brian Lloyd
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Kenton A. Hoover ken...@nemersonhoover.org wrote: But a perfectly reasonable source of time for SNTP where you just slam the clock, rather than NTP where you're figuring out drift... And if you use pool.ntp.org it doesn't matter and this entire discussion

Re: [time-nuts] time.windows.com statistics

2014-07-14 Thread Max Robinson
I have set the time server to us.pool.ntp.org. It's keeping my clock in step with the rest of the world so I am a happy camper. I had no idea my simple question would result in such a long thread. Regards. Max. K 4 O DS. Email: m...@maxsmusicplace.com Transistor site

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-14 Thread Hal Murray
mafl...@theflynn.org said: I am working on a project where I need to transfer 1PPS approximately 120 meters between buildings.I cam borrow a pair of 62.5 fibers from IT/ telco to do so. Google for fiber IRIG gets plenty of hits. Raw PPS is a nasty case for fibers. You need some sort

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-14 Thread SAIDJACK
Good point. I am a sucker for great surplus equipment too, in fact I have two rooms full of stuff most of which is used from time to time.. I envy Tom's collection. I think we need to have a Time Nuts For Dummies article written that takes J. Vig's writing and puts it into much less of a

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-14 Thread Scott Newell
At 04:09 PM 7/14/2014, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I think we need to have a Time Nuts For Dummies article written that takes J. Vig's writing and puts it into much less of a technically rigorous And maybe a recommended list of simple experiments that new time-nuts can perform. -- newell

Re: [time-nuts] Optical Distribution of 1PPS and IRIG

2014-07-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There are indeed modules that will move a pps over fiber. They are not cheap. They also are not real good bang for the buck if you need millisecond level timing. Without guidance on what we are trying to do here it’s very tough to come up with much. NTP over a symmetrical route will indeed

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-14 Thread Alex Pummer
yes you are right On 7/14/2014 2:41 PM, Scott Newell wrote: At 04:09 PM 7/14/2014, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I think we need to have a Time Nuts For Dummies article written that takes J. Vig's writing and puts it into much less of a technically rigorous And maybe a recommended list of

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-14 Thread Frister
Sounds like a great idea, Maybe I can venture beyond the Raspberry Pi with NTP and PPS GPS ..how far does the rabbit hole go? Frits On 7/14/14, Scott Newell newell+timen...@n5tnl.com wrote: At 04:09 PM 7/14/2014, saidj...@aol.com wrote: I think we need to have a Time Nuts For Dummies article

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-14 Thread Tom Van Baak
I think we need to have a Time Nuts For Dummies article written that takes J. Vig's writing and puts it into much less of a technically rigorous And maybe a recommended list of simple experiments that new time-nuts can perform. There's quite a list of resources at the main time-nuts page:

Re: [time-nuts] CW12-TIM

2014-07-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi As I recall from conversations with John over the years, the presentation he wrote was (for the most part) an effort to “dumb down” the subject for a more general audience … Bob On Jul 14, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: I think we need to have a Time Nuts For