[time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-29 Thread Tim
Hi all, Been on the lookout for a PRS10 to build a GPSDO+RB arrangement and I see these... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanford-Research-Systems-SRS-PRS10-Rubidium-Freq-Standard-12344101-08-no-lock-/231435472155 Is this just a reheat-the-bulb fix or do you suspect something more ? Not knowing mu

Re: [time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 power connector

2014-12-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi As far as anybody knows, the only pins on the power plug are the two assigned to power in. The rest are unused. The alarm outputs are a couple of opto isolator outputs. As yet, nobody seems to know what they do. The pins are 5,6 and 7,8. Bob > On Dec 29, 2014, at 7:14 PM, Martin A Flynn

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris without a GPS receiver.

2014-12-29 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 4:02 AM, David J Taylor < david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > - NTPns doesn't support my PPS source > > - for testing, using local servers alone, even the seconds don't get > "named" correctly, even though NTPns shows they are being detected and one > is even marked a

[time-nuts] Lucent KS-24361 power connector

2014-12-29 Thread Martin A Flynn
I am making up cables with slide latches for the Lucent KS-24361. Questions: * Are pins (Pin3 - Pin 9) in the P1 / DE-9 power connector assigned, or spare? * Has anyone determined the pin out for J3 / DE-9 alarm connector? Martin Flynn ___ time

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris without a GPS receiver.

2014-12-29 Thread Paul
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 7:02 AM, David J Taylor < david-tay...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > Using a mixture of PPS and local servers is exactly what I was aiming for, > but: > > - NTPns doesn't support my PPS source > I don't understand this. But getting a compatible GPS seems reasonable to move f

Re: [time-nuts] schematics of frequency counter

2014-12-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Dec 29, 2014, at 7:55 AM, Li Ang wrote: > > Hi Magnus, > The unit of these data is not ns but reference clock cycles (100ns). > TDC_GP22 measures the time between the edge of tdc_start and > tdc_stop1, then it measures the reference clock automaticly. The result you > get from it is th

Re: [time-nuts] schematics of frequency counter

2014-12-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Darn, not reading all the notes. Again. Well, in that case, scaling should be done... then you get average of 198,5075 ns and 149,8 ps RMS jitter, with 1,1 ns peak-to-peak. The jitter is okish then, but a little better would indeed be nice. Cheers, Magnus On 12/29/2014 01:55 PM, Li Ang

Re: [time-nuts] Downloaded HP"s SmartClock / Size of Lucent modules.

2014-12-29 Thread Didier Juges
Clearly off-topic, but hopefully it will stop here... The Dell supplies use a 3 wire cable and have a resistor in the power supply connecting the 3rd wire to ground. The value of that resistor tells the laptop the current capability of the supply (they have various models between 3.0 and 4.5A) so

Re: [time-nuts] New GPSDO on EBAY From China

2014-12-29 Thread xaos
You have to give the guy credit for trying. What is a shame here is that he did not publish the schematics and the source code. If anyone knows him he should just ask him. We tend to be sceptics here but that's the nature of the game. However, I don't want anyone to think that we are elitist. I r

Re: [time-nuts] New GPSDO on EBAY From China

2014-12-29 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, well that’s a move forward on this GPSDO. There is a *lot* more data on that listing than there was a month ago. Thanks for digging it up and posting the link. If you look at the ADEV at 1 second, it’s running at 2.67 x10^-11. That’s all coming from the Erratum Rb that they are using

Re: [time-nuts] New GPSDO on EBAY From China

2014-12-29 Thread Marco IK1ODO -2
The OCXO is a Morion (Russia) MV89A. You may download a datasheet from http://www.morion.com.ru/catalog_pdf/MV89-OCXO.pdf Looks decent, stability vs. temperature and aging are "as usual". BG7TBL is a Chinese radioamateur, quite known for his designs. 73 - Marco IK1ODO _

Re: [time-nuts] schematics of frequency counter

2014-12-29 Thread Li Ang
Hi Magnus, The unit of these data is not ns but reference clock cycles (100ns). TDC_GP22 measures the time between the edge of tdc_start and tdc_stop1, then it measures the reference clock automaticly. The result you get from it is the ratio of them. 2014-12-29 19:58 GMT+08:00 Magnus Danielson

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris without a GPS receiver.

2014-12-29 Thread David J Taylor
From: Chris Albertson Can't you combine a few Internet pool NTP servers with a local 1PPS source? The Internet servers will "name the seconds". Also if you really need a Motorola Oncore you can buy them for $20 on eBay. There is no shortage. I paid $18 with free shipping for a UT+ I run the

Re: [time-nuts] schematics of frequency counter

2014-12-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, Some quick statistic-processing. Histogram of your data: 1.979 0 1.980 2 1.98146 1.982 173 1.983 523 1.984 1031 1.985 1301 1.986 1131 1.987 648 1.988 236 1.989 8 1.990 1 1.991 0 The total sample count is 5100 (wc -l only gives 5099 since there is a missin

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris without a GPS receiver.

2014-12-29 Thread Chris Albertson
Can't you combine a few Internet pool NTP servers with a local 1PPS source? The Internet servers will "name the seconds". Also if you really need a Motorola Oncore you can buy them for $20 on eBay. There is no shortage. I paid $18 with free shipping for a UT+ I run the UT+ and leave the Thunde

Re: [time-nuts] New GPSDO on EBAY From China

2014-12-29 Thread Chris Albertson
I remember seeing this same unit here on this list some weeks ago. As I remember it is built from some plans that were published. You can see that it uses a surplus OCXO. The seller is good to claim the specs of his GPSDO as being "two orders of magnitude above the OCXO". because we don't know

Re: [time-nuts] New GPSDO on EBAY From China

2014-12-29 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Li Ang wrote: This unit is done by BG7TBL. In his store on taobao.com, there is a adev chart. Please refrer to this link That ADEV chart (see below) raises more questions than it answers. At least the time constant is not too short (a very common problem with DIY GPSDOs). But when the GPS

Re: [time-nuts] KS24361 Ulrich Z83XX software mod works

2014-12-29 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Some time ago, there was a thread about whether Z38xx writes to the GPSDO's NV memory every second, raising the possibility that it could prematurely wear out the NV memory if it were used continuously to monitor a GPSDO. Here is what Ulrich said (23 April 2013): due to the discussion that e

Re: [time-nuts] Soekris without a GPS receiver.

2014-12-29 Thread David J Taylor
From: Paul [] I've avoided asking why you're doing this because -- to misquote Yoda -- "Do nor do not, there is only try" But if you're not switching out the system clock it doesn't really seem like either a time-nut or ntp-nut project. ___ Thanks for

Re: [time-nuts] Downloaded HP"s SmartClock / Size of Lucent modules.

2014-12-29 Thread Gerhard Hoffmann
Am 29.12.2014 um 00:39 schrieb Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd): 2) Can anyone with these $150 two-part Lucent boxes tell me the size of them. The box itself: 65mm high, 152 mm deep, 244 mm wide Front plate: 76 mm high, 274 mm wide Just a little bit to big to fit into a 4 HU 19" bo

Re: [time-nuts] Downloaded HP"s SmartClock / Size of Lucent modules.

2014-12-29 Thread Hal Murray
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk said: > 1) From what I gather, the HP GPS timing receivers can be observed/ > controlled with HP SmartClock. But where I download it from? I drew a blank > with Google, as well as the Microsemi site It's called satstat rather than SmartClock. > 2) Can anyone