Re: [time-nuts] Ublox 6T receiver, noisy PPS.

2015-01-20 Thread Azelio Boriani
So, your PPS wander is measured by the GPSDO internal TIC and the result is sawtooth corrected and usually gives 6ns, suddenly it went to 25ns. Well, the first move, IMO, is to connect an external TIC and track the GPS PPS against the GPSDO PPS and see whether, when you have the jump, it is

Re: [time-nuts] question Alan deviation measured with Timelab and counters

2015-01-20 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 08:59:58 -0500 Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: The most basic way to do phase noise in the basement is with a single mixer setup running into some sort of audio FFT device. A sound card can be used or an audio spectrum analyzer. Parts are $100 to get one setup once you can

Re: [time-nuts] Maser on a chip

2015-01-20 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:59:57 + Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S42/13/37M75/index.xml Not much detail there... but there is an article in Science. It looks like the supplemantary material[1] of the paper isnt behind a pay wall.

Re: [time-nuts] Maser on a chip

2015-01-20 Thread Attila Kinali
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 22:59:57 + Mark Sims hol...@hotmail.com wrote: http://www.princeton.edu/main/news/archive/S42/13/37M75/index.xml Not much detail there... but there is an article in Science. This maser is basically a variation of the quantum cascade laser, using tunable quantum

[time-nuts] 3048A Expert Needed

2015-01-20 Thread Martyn Smith
Hello, I have both the HP3048A and Timepod Phase Noise test Sets. I have two low noise 100 MHz PLL's. The 100 MHz output is locked to a 10 MHz reference input. I want to measure their phase noise. Their spec is -100 @ 10 Hz with a -168 noise floor. I connect both 100 MHz outputs to the

Re: [time-nuts] question Alan deviation measured with Timelab and counters

2015-01-20 Thread Stéphane Rey
Hi, Following the tests results in the previous email, today I've performed additional measurements showing that the repeatability of the GPSDO DUT is not great but is coming from the design. I've tested several over sources and repeatability is correct. I can already make some measurement.

[time-nuts] Oscilloquartz 2200 Clock / B-5400 Oscillator

2015-01-20 Thread Adrian
I ran into a nice Oscilloquartz 2200 digital clock / precision crystal oscillator from the early 80's that is in need of some care. Please let me know if you have any manuals / data sheets / catalog pages or other information to share. At the moment I'm working on the faulty power supply. Any

[time-nuts] 3048A Expert Needed

2015-01-20 Thread Ivan.Cousins
Martyn: Two things to be aware of: Injection Locking and loop dynamics. Injection Locking: Injection locking can be observed by manually moving one oscillator frequency closer to the other frequency. If one oscillator jumps to the other frequency then more isolation may be needed. Loop

Re: [time-nuts] 3048A Expert Needed

2015-01-20 Thread John Miles
However, the 3048A won't achieve lock. The 100 MHz PLL's loop bandwidth (about 0.2 Hz) is too slow for the 3048A to achieve lock. Does anyone have any ideas? Since the DUT's loop bandwidth is (presumably) below your minimum offset of interest, I'd try the Phase noise without PLL