[time-nuts] Mains Frequency Monitor with the PIC 16F1619

2016-06-19 Thread Mark Sims
I would recommend dumping that DC-DC converter and going with a simple 3-terminal regulator (or at least adding an option for it). It seems it would be a lot cheaper and easier for people to source the parts for it. _

[time-nuts] HP-10811 double oven oscillator outer oven controller PCB

2016-06-19 Thread Mark Sims
I put my circuit board layout (Eagle .BRD file) for Warren Sarkison's outer oven controller for the HP-10811 double oven oscillator onto OSHPARK.COM's shared projects. You can order boards from OSHPARK or download the .BRD file and send it to your favorite board maker. https://oshpark.com/sha

Re: [time-nuts] Mains Frequency Monitor with the PIC 16F1619

2016-06-19 Thread Pete Lancashire
Dan, Nice. Ideas for the next go around + Add a 10 MHz in circuit to replace or override the TCXO. , this is Time-Nuts you know :-) + The SPI could be used as the 2nd I/O port And if one wants to play more the this part or other pics search on Google for "Curiosity Board by Microchip" -pete

[time-nuts] Mains Frequency Monitor with the PIC 16F1619

2016-06-19 Thread Daniel Watson
Hi all, A few months ago someone on the list made mention of the PIC 16F1619, prompting me to order a few to check out. It's an interesting little chip with some nice peripherals. I decided to do a mains frequency monitor project using it. The project is not quite complete, but you can read about

Re: [time-nuts] Switching transistors, current sources, nonidealties and noise

2016-06-19 Thread David
National's discrete products databook includes rough descriptions of the various processes, die shots showing geometry, and lists which transistors are fabricated on which process. On Sun, 19 Jun 2016 22:25:28 +, you wrote: >Once upon a time I came across a document from National Semiconducto

Re: [time-nuts] Switching transistors, current sources, nonidealties and noise

2016-06-19 Thread Bruce Griffiths
On Sunday, June 19, 2016 07:23:09 PM Attila Kinali wrote: > Good evening, > > I have recently been looking into BJT's and their switching properties. > Because a time-to-amplitude converter does similar things as I would like > to, I have been looking in what people do with those. First thing that

Re: [time-nuts] Switching transistors, current sources, nonidealties and noise

2016-06-19 Thread David
>Why do people use general purpose transistors in these places, even >though RF transistors definitly improve switching behaviour? Commercial designs do use RF transistors but only old ones are documented. The Tektronix 7A11 uses 2 GHz PNPs and 1 GHz NPNs but its design is unusual since it can in

[time-nuts] Switching transistors, current sources, nonidealties and noise

2016-06-19 Thread Mark Sims
Once upon a time I came across a document from National Semiconductor that talked about their transistor product line. At the time they made less than 100 different transistor dies... but sold them under 10,000+ different part numbers.Some were just packaging variations. Maybe some select

Re: [time-nuts] Ocxo wrong frequency.

2016-06-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi What you have is an SC cut OCXO that has an incorrectly tuned trap circuit in it (or a defective crystal). Of the two I’d bet on the trap. It’s firing up on the wrong mode and staying there. It switches back and forth due to interaction between the limiter stage and the trap circuit. Ideall

Re: [time-nuts] Ocxo wrong frequency.

2016-06-19 Thread bneu...@t-online.de
Most probably this OCXO incorporazes an SC-cut crystal.Due to insufficient design it sometimes starts at the so-called B-mode which typically is some 9% above the desired C-mode. The motional resistance is abot the same, someimes even slightly lower than the resistanxe of the C-mode. It needs a

Re: [time-nuts] Switching transistors, current sources, nonidealties and noise

2016-06-19 Thread jimlux
On 6/19/16 10:23 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: Good evening, I have recently been looking into BJT's and their switching properties. Because a time-to-amplitude converter does similar things as I would like to, I have been looking in what people do with those. First thing that strikes me as kind of o

[time-nuts] Phase noise measurements on the cheap with an Agilent e4406a

2016-06-19 Thread hardy
Hi I am also using an E4406A to measure phase noise with john miles program-works great,but have been thinking if it would make any difference using an ultra low noise 10Mhz external reference for the E4406A?Have any of you tried this? There are some interesting information about the E4406A at e

[time-nuts] Ocxo wrong frequency.

2016-06-19 Thread Iwa2008 via time-nuts
Has anyone come across oscillators outputting the incorrect frequency when powered up. The frequency that is outputted reads 10.8 Mhz, and falls a few HZ as the ocxo warms up. The frequency is stable, even when measured over the course of many hours. It is a repeatable issue, when the ocxo

Re: [time-nuts] Switching transistors, current sources, nonidealties and noise

2016-06-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Leakage Bob > On Jun 19, 2016, at 1:23 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: > > Good evening, > > I have recently been looking into BJT's and their switching properties. > Because a time-to-amplitude converter does similar things as I would like to, > I have been looking in what people do with those.

[time-nuts] LORAL FS-9256 Info Wanted

2016-06-19 Thread Richard W. Solomon
A while back I posted a request for info on this box. Nothing was forthcoming, so I thought I would ask again. This box has one input (10 MHz) and three outputs (72.5 MHz, 725 MHz and 7.975 GHz). >From my experimenting with it, it looks like I can lock the three outputs to a 10 MHz sig

[time-nuts] Switching transistors, current sources, nonidealties and noise

2016-06-19 Thread Attila Kinali
Good evening, I have recently been looking into BJT's and their switching properties. Because a time-to-amplitude converter does similar things as I would like to, I have been looking in what people do with those. First thing that strikes me as kind of odd is that almost all designs I have seen us

Re: [time-nuts] 3120A issues

2016-06-19 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message , Tom Knox writes: >If we do not receive your acknowledgement, Microsemi will keep >your order in our backlog, and ship when we have implemented a >solution that allows us to meet the RoHS criteria and apply the CE >mark and label." > > >Not really any details onnthe issue. Wh

Re: [time-nuts] 3120A issues

2016-06-19 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The key sentence does appear to be the last one in the email they sent. There are a lot of ways to trip over the ROHS stuff. The guessing game contest now does turn into a “pick a part” exercise. There are an enormous number of mistakes that somebody / somewhere in the supply chain could ha

Re: [time-nuts] 3120A issues

2016-06-19 Thread jimlux
On 6/18/16 10:41 PM, John Miles wrote: On 6/18/16 6:17 PM, Tom Knox wrote: Does anyone have any insight as to why Microsemi has stopped shipping 3120A Phase Noise test sets beside that they are not to spec? They're shipping them.. I got quoted a 12 week delivery in April, $9k for the box, a

[time-nuts] E4406A and feeding HF signals directly to the ADC

2016-06-19 Thread Timestep Nuts
>From an earlier post: "E4406A and feeding HF signals directly to the ADC" Has anyone here done that ? Thanks Dave ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follo

Re: [time-nuts] 3120A issues

2016-06-19 Thread Bruce Griffiths
It almost sounds like something has been found not to be ROHS compliant.Could be as simple as the alodined (conventional process uses hexavalent chromium ) case or perhaps a non ROHS part was used. Bruce On Sunday, 19 June 2016 8:02 PM, John Miles wrote: > On 6/18/16 6:17 PM, Tom Knox

Re: [time-nuts] 3120A issues

2016-06-19 Thread Tom Knox
Hi All; This was the email a friend recently received. The 3120A product is currently on hold until Microsemi implements a solution. If you would like for Microsemi to sell this 3120A product to you and process your purchase order -Sales Order notwithstanding that these products do not meet p

Re: [time-nuts] 3120A issues

2016-06-19 Thread John Miles
> On 6/18/16 6:17 PM, Tom Knox wrote: > > Does anyone have any insight as to why Microsemi has stopped shipping > 3120A Phase Noise test sets beside that they are not to spec? > > > They're shipping them.. I got quoted a 12 week delivery in April, $9k > for the box, about $12k-15k for the software