Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100 Loran-C Frequency and Timing Receiver

2008-10-17 Thread Chuck Harris
, and the 488 board are the same. I seem to recall the ROMS are the same too. -Chuck Harris Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scot > t McGrath" writes: > >> I have a 2100 I'll see if my EPROM programmer still works and try and >&

Re: [time-nuts] Sulzer Labs D-5 oscillator

2008-10-11 Thread Chuck Harris
A nice bonus is the wide variety of high quality free software that is available. I have been using linux exclusively for about 12 years now. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] AC Connector On HP 5061B

2008-10-02 Thread Chuck Harris
ith the midpoint of one phase winding > grounded, or Wye/Star with the neutral > bonded through a high impedance to ground). True, but they all end up the same as the residential 120V circuit, with the black wire hot, and the white (or grey) neutral bonded to the service panel. -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] Driving clocks from 1pps

2008-09-04 Thread Chuck Harris
ps even harmful. In the > 'scope traces below you can see the IC generates just 50 ms > biphase pulses every second. That's 1/20, or 5% duty cycle. No Tom, you misunderstand. The 50% duty cycle pulse provides the rising and falling edges. The small capac

Re: [time-nuts] Driving clocks from 1pps

2008-09-04 Thread Chuck Harris
rcent duty cycle. If you want to do something like divide down from 10MHz, most any modern PIC can be used to make a one chip, zero extra part solution, as was described by TVB earlier. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] How to get 32.768KHz from 10MHz.

2008-09-04 Thread Chuck Harris
Chuck Harris wrote: > Hi Brooke, > > The drive for the coils is really not very critical. All you need is > a cmos inverter and a couple of capacitors: > > ~1PPS--[>o---+[>o---|(-+ > ~| | > ~

Re: [time-nuts] How to get 32.768KHz from 10MHz.

2008-09-04 Thread Chuck Harris
MOTOR ~| | ~+--|(-+ ~ Yes, it is just that easy. -Chuck Harris Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi John: > > All the quartz clocks I've taken apart have a single coil, for example see: > http://www.prc68.com/I/QuartzClk.shtml > > The drive to that coil is bi-polar and is

Re: [time-nuts] Manual Request for 5065A prefix 1840A

2008-08-29 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Scott, I have the last manual made, it was prefix 1908A, and there are yellow sheets up to 2816A. My copy was bought directly from HP, in the late 1980's(IIRC). -Chuck Harris Scott McGrath wrote: > Hi, > > Need a manual for a 5065A Prefix 1840A Rb frequency standard - &

Re: [time-nuts] I want a good micro-controller

2008-08-23 Thread Chuck Harris
of it's use. The PIC is not alone in propagating that > mistake, though they seem to be the last. Microchip never made the STAMP. That was Parallax. They wrote a BASIC interpreter for the PIC, and sold a PIC that was preprogrammed with the BASIC interpreter. They still do: http://www.paral

Re: [time-nuts] I want a good micro-controller

2008-08-23 Thread Chuck Harris
one is used as > a 555 timer replacement in my SmartClock->PC interface. (Ok, I was in a > hurry, needed a pulse stretcher, and I didn't have any 555's lying around) I don't use 555's anymore, PICS are available that do the job better, and faster, and with lower power consumption. And they are more stable frequency wise. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] I want a good micro-controller

2008-08-15 Thread Chuck Harris
40 pdip that I > wish I had a few more of. I have a couple Z80's, an 8085, 68000, > 68020, none of which are particularly useful anymore. Then there's > that one lone 16F84 PIC and it's programmer, which I think I used o

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Second Pending

2008-07-30 Thread Chuck Harris
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The mechanical >> clepsydra shown overleaf is simple in operation. The cylindrical vessel is >> slowly filled with water and a float >> with a stem and rack engages the wheel to which the hour hand is attached. >> As the vessel fills so the float rises >> and the hour h

Re: [time-nuts] Leap Second Pending

2008-07-29 Thread Chuck Harris
ce of the water, water percolated through the hole and eventually it sank which denoted a period of time. It is interesting to note that this system is still used in Algeria for timing periods of the supply of water for irrigation purposes. -Chuck Harris Rex wrote: > Mark Sims wrote: >>

Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2100 keypad?

2008-07-22 Thread Chuck Harris
to be a pretty good balance between key press response, and debouncing. Eventually, you will need to replace the keypad switches. They are individually soldered onto the board, and should be available. -Chuck Harris Dan Rae wrote: > My 2100 timing receiver (no suffix) has started to give me pro

Re: [time-nuts] Double ovened 10811-60158 on ebay

2008-07-20 Thread Chuck Harris
was the difference in thermal resistance between humid air and dry air. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt and USB to RS232 converters

2008-07-06 Thread Chuck Harris
after a while, make a good clock. I'm pretty sure > mine was working correctly before I got the software working. It is designed to run just fine without operator intervention. The only problem, is it has no way of informing the user that it is actually working, other than

Re: [time-nuts] New leap second

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck Harris
Bill Hawkins wrote: > Chuck Harris wrote, > > "Two leap seconds in as many years! > > It must be that global warming." > > > Well, yes. The Earth expands from the heat, rotation slows, > and we get another leap second - as we watch symptom after > sym

Re: [time-nuts] Rb references for audiophiles?

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck Harris
astron > circuits. Find the tubes with the Bugle Boy tubes in Tek scopes. You leave the Tek scopes alone! There are enough audiofools poaching the tubes and transformers as it is. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] New leap second

2008-07-04 Thread Chuck Harris
Two leap seconds in as many years! It must be that global warming. -Chuck Harris David Stelpstra wrote: > Hi, > > > > The announcement of a leapsecond end of this year just came in. > > See: ftp://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/bulletinc.dat > >

Re: [time-nuts] cesium clocks..

2008-06-28 Thread Chuck Harris
Bruce Griffiths wrote: > Chuck Harris wrote: >> This is a chicken vs egg sort of problem. When I took apart the oven >> on my 5065A rubidium, it looked to me as though the enamel insulated >> nichrome wire developed a short about 50% into the coil, and wiped out >> the

Re: [time-nuts] cesium clocks..

2008-06-28 Thread Chuck Harris
t and finish wires of the winding happen at the end of the oven where the terminals are. -Chuck Harris wje wrote: > Yes, but my comment is rather specific... my oscillator failed because > the heater pass transistor shorted. > This sent the oven heater into full-on. The overtemp sensor is

Re: [time-nuts] HP Z3801A Motorola Oncore VP receiver...

2008-06-22 Thread Chuck Harris
A lot of shippers require a telephone number for shipping. FedEx, DHL, and UPS for their premium services. Give them your office number. -Chuck Harris Mike Feher wrote: > Based on Larry's comments below, I ordered two of these and paid for them > with PP. Now I just got an ema

Re: [time-nuts] Failure to make order for thunderbolt

2008-06-22 Thread Chuck Harris
Roy, Read the letter John sent to all time-nuts carefully. You will then see that he has provided you with a user name and a password to use for purchasing the Tbolt GPSDO. -Chuck Harris Roy Phillips wrote: > John > > I am a member of time-nuts and have attempted to place an or

Re: [time-nuts] FTS-4060M/S24 ROM

2008-06-21 Thread Chuck Harris
It used to be a fairly common trick to solder an eprom into a machine tool socket to make a more durable eprom... the pins will insert into a socket more easily, and they won't bend. Make sure that there isn't an insert pin type socket in the circuit card. -Chuck Harris Mark Sims wro

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B arrived - any FAQ

2008-06-19 Thread Chuck Harris
ust barely). -Chuck Harris phil wrote: > Why an 8082A, that's a 250MHz unit. Would not an 8015A 50MHz work. I think > it's the same only with a lower bandwidth. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://ww

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B arrived - any FAQ

2008-06-19 Thread Chuck Harris
uency multiplier alignment on either of my 5370s. Any tricks for >doing that without one? 141T systems are available for much less than the cost of an 8082A, and are much more useful generally. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@

Re: [time-nuts] 5370B arrived - any FAQ

2008-06-19 Thread Chuck Harris
lignment in the analog front-end unless you were > lucky enough to get a freshly-calibrated one. You can usually > significantly improve channel-to-channel trigger consistency and lower > the jitter by doing so. What does one do where the tests call for an HP8082A pulse generator? The s

Re: [time-nuts] An interesting behavior with my Sulzer 2.5A...

2008-06-08 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Dennis, Thanks for the info. It sure looks exactly like what happens when a power failure exceeds my UPS's capacity. I guess I need a bigger battery. -Chuck Harris Dennis Tillman wrote: > That sounds like normal crystal aging. See > <http://www.ieee-uffc.org/freqcont

[time-nuts] An interesting behavior with my Sulzer 2.5A...

2008-06-05 Thread Chuck Harris
in E9. I then get to spend a couple of days bringing it back on frequency, and find that for the next several month it begins a very slow climb up in frequency back to where it was after the short interruption in power. Any ideas on what is happening? -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] PCB design questions thread II

2008-06-02 Thread Chuck Harris
be made by: 2 side | 0 side | 2 side | 0 side | 2 side ... The only down side to odd numbers of layers is the supply house has to stock 1 sided laminate. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.fe

Re: [time-nuts] Strange reports of bocked messages to timenuts

2008-05-17 Thread Chuck Harris
subscribed members, and the second is to adjust meow.febo.com to meet the RFC standards. After you have done that, you can get off of RFC-ignorant with a simple email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Chuck Harris John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > I think this is some sort of weird backscatter problem; I

Re: [time-nuts] Strange reports of bocked messages to timenuts

2008-05-17 Thread Chuck Harris
ith ESMTP id 07A4765B for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:18:52 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 00:18:52 +0200 (EET) From: "Petri T. Koistinen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-X-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Versio

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5370B

2008-05-09 Thread Chuck Harris
That is normal for 5370 type counters. The are time interval counters that can also measure frequency. Frequency is not their best feature. -Chuck Harris marks twotoe.com wrote: > Could someone confirm if this behaviour is normal on a 5370B. > > When measuring the output of my sta

Re: [time-nuts] Measuring 10 MHz accurately.

2008-05-07 Thread Chuck Harris
ts in 10E-12 > That would be 2 parts per 10E-12, which would be 2/[10E-12], a very big number! I am sure that the author of that snippet actually meant 2 parts per 10E12, or 2 x 10E-12. Sort of mixing your metaphors -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts maili

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Group Buy, part 1

2008-05-06 Thread Chuck Harris
for you to insult list members and call them cheapskates. They just want in on what turned out to be a much better deal than was ever contemplated. Remember the earlier deal was for several hundred dollars each. The new price changes the calculus completely. -Chuck Harris Bill Hawkins wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] any experts at repairing WaveTek 288's?

2008-04-30 Thread Chuck Harris
word Mexico on any capacitor (or any other part for that matter), replace it. -Chuck Harris Scott Burris wrote: > This may be a little too far off the topic of this list -- if so, feel > free to ignore this message :-) > > I'm trying to get a WaveTek 288 back in working order. F

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency reference

2008-04-20 Thread Chuck Harris
Most experienced people refuse to send delivery receipts. To send them would validate their address to all of the spammers that blindly spam every email address they can scrape off of the internet. -Chuck Harris David C. Partridge wrote: > Paging Tom van Baak. I replied to your offline em

Re: [time-nuts] Roof Penetrations for a GPS Antenna Lead

2008-04-01 Thread Chuck Harris
already have a lightning rod system, you probably should add one, with a very tall rod that extends 5 or 6 feet higher than your GPS antenna, and is within 5 feet of the antenna. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscri

Re: [time-nuts] Xtal-like Colpitts Oscillator

2008-03-31 Thread Chuck Harris
The first problem that jumps immediately to my eye is your power supply is backwards. -Chuck Harris Jenny Lee wrote: > Hi Everyone, I was hoping to get some words of wisdom on my oscillator that > only oscillates in simulation! I have a > MEMS device that resonates around 34 MHz a

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-27 Thread Chuck Harris
nd in bulk, and were cut to length with a pair of dikes that I didn't care about. -Chuck Harris Charles S. Osborne wrote: > Matt, > > Not seeing a better alternative posted for the Racal 1992, and having dozens > of similar bad Toko switches on some Pacific Measurements 1038-N10

Re: [time-nuts] For Sale HP-8405A

2008-02-24 Thread Chuck Harris
Kind of looks to me like we are being spammed by an equipment dealer. -Chuck Harris Didier Juges wrote: > Did not work, got this: > > > > We're Sorry. > > If you were looking for a particular product, please contact us to see if > that item is currently in sto

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-21 Thread Chuck Harris
Mike S wrote: > At 10:17 AM 2/21/2008, Chuck Harris wrote... >> Sorry, but that is not so. The 68000 was a 16 bit machine, both >> internally, and externally, with 32 bit registers and some 32 bit >> instructions. > > Your Intel bias is really showing now. Enoug

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-21 Thread Chuck Harris
ere someplace. I was frustrated because I couldn't get it to work under linux and wine. CCS has a native linux compiler, and their windows compiler works nicely under wine. I am having some trouble with Microchip's programmer under the current wine release, but it has worked in the past,

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-21 Thread Chuck Harris
Mike S wrote: > At 12:03 AM 2/21/2008, Chuck Harris wrote... >> I'm not arguing anything at all. Assembler in the form of >> mov x,3000 meaning x=3000 has been around from the very beginning. > > One could equally say "move 3000,x meaning x=3000." What

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Harris
Mike S wrote: > At 09:23 PM 2/20/2008, Chuck Harris wrote... >> I suppose that you are bothered by: >> >> X = 3000 >> >> Because that is the same as mov x,3000 in virtually all of the early >> assemblers. > > How do you figure that? The verb is in

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Harris
ntel, blame it on DEC and IBM. Ever program a PDP8, or an IBM360? When intel settled on the CS,DS,ES, SS architecture, they did so because it made it easy to write pascal compilers. Someone in the computer science world told them that pascal was the way to the future. I guess they were wrong.

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Harris
Bob Paddock wrote: > On Wednesday 20 February 2008 11:53:23 am Chuck Harris wrote: > >> I doubt it, the audience of these two devices is quite different. >> The 6805 family could address 64K external RAM/ROM/IO. > > Not sure what device you are describing, but it is no

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Harris
he job done. When the job is done, I get paid. I do embedded work, but my definition of embedded is something I can code up in a couple of days and ship. The largest PIC I use generally is the 16F690. It is a 20 pin package. I use it for the pin count, and the gizmo's inside, not the code

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Harris
ochip > has learned their lesson. I cannot imagine what lesson they needed to learn. They made a line of extremely easy to use microprocessors that are about as cheap as the package they come in. I should be so smart as they. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nut

Re: [time-nuts] favorite microcontroller module?

2008-02-20 Thread Chuck Harris
suited to C. Who cares? PIC's program very nicely in "C" too. You have to remember they are a very small machine, so stupid things like recursion are out, but I have rarely found that I couldn't do what I wanted to do with them. And CCS's $100 "C" compiler prod

Re: [time-nuts] HP5342A GPIB programming

2008-01-30 Thread Chuck Harris
your bus is dead. -Chuck Harris Matt Ettus wrote: > So, after a couple of hours messing with it, I finally got the counter > to tell me a frequency over GPIB. The magic incantations, in Python > are: > > c.write('AUSR3LCT2ST2') > freq = c.read(20) &g

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix, 1 more quick ?

2008-01-17 Thread Chuck Harris
pib_write(10,"VMDR\r") gpib_write(10,"HMDB\r") gpib_write(10,"STORED\r") gpib_write(10,"1 0 2 4 >P/W AVG10\r") gpib_read(10) gpib_write(10,"SENDX\r") time.sleep(4) print "X=" + gpib_read(10) + "\r" print "X=" + gpib

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix, Linux and bash

2008-01-16 Thread Chuck Harris
You don't have the daemon that automatically loads new USB devices running. I forget its name, but it is easily found by doing a google on linux USB. Or, you can look in Synaptic and search on USB. If I get a chance, I will look it up later on this evening. -Chuck Harris Patrick wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] GIMP VS PhotoShop

2007-12-28 Thread Chuck Harris
strations used in scholarly papers. Improving your stability and accuracy is all about standing on the shoulders of others, and innovating from that high platform. If you cannot present your results to others in a clear and understandable format, then everybody loses. -Chu

Re: [time-nuts] NLTL comb generators going away...

2007-12-28 Thread Chuck Harris
textile, appliance, TV, computer, telephone, machine tool, hand tool, yard tool, furniture, food, sports equipment, toy, semiconductor, test equipment... and soon automobile, and airplane industries. I'm learning a new line: "Do you want fries with that?"... only because of the sh

Re: [time-nuts] GIMP VS PhotoShop

2007-12-28 Thread Chuck Harris
oshop work and look like the Gimp? Or to make Microsoft Word work and look like WordPerfect? Or for that matter, make Microsoft Vista look and work like KDE or Gnome? -Chuck Harris Michael Baker wrote: > Time-Nuts-- > > John De Armond said: > > RE: Gimp. I wouldn't foi

Re: [time-nuts] Antennas in apartments

2007-12-17 Thread Chuck Harris
Neon John wrote: > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:43:41 -0500, Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Neon John wrote: >>> Federal law says that landlords cannot prohibit satellite TV dishes. >>> Another one of >>> those "best laws money ca

Re: [time-nuts] Antennas in apartments

2007-12-17 Thread Chuck Harris
Neon John wrote: > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 22:57:49 -0800, Hal Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Talk to your building superintendent. Offer to provide NTP service to the >> whole complex if he will help you setup a GPS antenna. > > I can see it now. "Duh, how's this NTP stuff gonna hel

Re: [time-nuts] WIRED Time Nuts

2007-12-11 Thread Chuck Harris
Rex wrote: > Here's a time-related observation. As Andy Warhol specified, this could > be your "15 minutes of fame". > > Does anyone on the list have an accurate way to measure fame minutes? Probably depends on his altitude. -Chuck Harris _

Re: [time-nuts] John Vig elected President of IEEE

2007-12-11 Thread Chuck Harris
really smaller than a true 12 pt... [well, either MS has it wrong, or the rest of the world has it wrong.] -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] John Vig elected President of IEEE

2007-12-10 Thread Chuck Harris
Bruce Griffiths wrote: >>> I wish somebody could make a pdf of that, I don't have (and don't >>> want!) access to Powerpoint[1]. >>> >> Sure you do, it is called: "OpenOffice.org" ;-) >> >> -Chuck Harris >> >

Re: [time-nuts] John Vig elected President of IEEE

2007-12-10 Thread Chuck Harris
Neon John wrote: > On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:36:19 -0500, Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tom Van Baak" writes: >>> >>>> Right click and SaveAs this 7.4 MB PPT f

Re: [time-nuts] John Vig elected President of IEEE

2007-12-10 Thread Chuck Harris
ig3.ppt >> >> Then open the 298 page document with PowerPoint and >> print as "note pages". > > I wish somebody could make a pdf of that, I don't have (and don't > want!) access to Powerpoint[1]. Sure you do, it is called: "OpenOffice.org&qu

Re: [time-nuts] Super stable BVA Quartz resonators... BVA??

2007-12-10 Thread Chuck Harris
which is easily removed by optical centering and edging techniques. > > Also other parameters become worse. For the BVA the manufacturability > > would also be much worse as it already is. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] Super stable BVA Quartz resonators... BVA??

2007-12-09 Thread Chuck Harris
Yes, but that doesn't account for this part of his request (emphasis added): "It looks like a *smaller* version of a BNC connector, but the bayonet has three "nipples" instead of two." -Chuck Harris Alan Melia wrote: > Berndt I believe you are describing a &q

Re: [time-nuts] Super stable BVA Quartz resonators... BVA??

2007-12-07 Thread Chuck Harris
A googlized translation is: Improved Housing for Aging -Chuck Harris John Franke wrote: > Try: > > Boîtier à Vieillissement Amélioré > > John WA4WDL > > - Original Message - > From: "John Ackermann N8UR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Disc

Re: [time-nuts] Watches

2007-12-05 Thread Chuck Harris
Bill Hawkins wrote: > Groucho Marx, taking the pulse of a fallen man: > > "Either he's dead or my watch has stopped." Funny, but backwards. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To

Re: [time-nuts] Watches - the china connection

2007-12-04 Thread Chuck Harris
selling copies of Rolex cases, dials, and hand sets that can be used to turn a cheap quartz movement into a Rolex replica. The parts are being supplied in the interest of committing fraud, not facilitating repairs. -Chuck Harris WB6BNQ wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > I was not admiring anyth

Re: [time-nuts] Watches - the china connection

2007-12-04 Thread Chuck Harris
tches. The Spaceview is about the only Accutron model that commands a high price. So, when some Chinese company builds parts that allow one to make a non-Spaceview watch appear to be a Spaceview watch, with the apparent intent of facilitating fraud, I think there is little to admire. -Chuck H

Re: [time-nuts] Watches

2007-12-04 Thread Chuck Harris
;t do the work necessary to make the fraud possible. -Chuck Harris Neon John wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:06:01 -0500, "Daun Yeagley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I've wanted to experiment with that, but I need to come >> up with another Accutron, as I do

Re: [time-nuts] Watches

2007-12-03 Thread Chuck Harris
nding board. I'd be happy to help. -Chuck Harris Didier Juges wrote: > Chuck, > > My dad has one of the original tuning fork Accutron. I know he stopped > wearing it a while back, but I am not sure why. I will ask him if he still > has it and if it works and in case he does, I

Re: [time-nuts] Watches

2007-12-03 Thread Chuck Harris
free oxygen in the watch case if your seals are good. One source for reasonably priced accutrons is Tom Mister at dashto.com . He loves the things, and usually has a few on his website. He prices things to his own ideas of what they are worth... not ebay's. -Chuck Harris Daun Yeagley wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Watches

2007-12-03 Thread Chuck Harris
tuning fork, causing lots of noise, and motion problems. Changing a resistor, and adjusting the phase of the pawls will usually allow the use of politically correct cells. -Chuck Harris Thomas A. Frank wrote: >> Real tuning form Accutrons are collectibles now, and it is not >> un

Re: [time-nuts] Chronometer contest sponsored by IEEE Spectrum

2007-12-02 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Said, It never ceases to amaze me what a creative mind can come up with! Be sure that you keep the temperature extremes down to something that would be comfortable to your skin. And reading the watch face might be one of those minor details that kills the project. -Chuck Harris [EMAIL

Re: [time-nuts] Watches

2007-12-01 Thread Chuck Harris
capacitor to resonate. I connect it to the input of a vertical amp plug in on my scope, and trigger the scope with a HP3336B. -Chuck Harris Max Robinson wrote: > I once saw one of the original machines used for adjusting balance wheel > watches. It used an audio frequency tuning fork osci

Re: [time-nuts] Chronometer contest sponsored by IEEE Spectrum

2007-12-01 Thread Chuck Harris
mebase for 1 cycle of 32KHz, and watch the waveform slip. > > A small shift in a circle just makes a not-round circle. A small shift on a > line makes a slight opening. > > Or is the drift so huge that this question isn't interes

Re: [time-nuts] Watches

2007-12-01 Thread Chuck Harris
costs between $2 and $20 depending on how generous the watchmaker was feeling. If this happened, your Accutron will now go tic...tic...tic instead of hu... And it will have been transformed from a significant antique relic to a worthless piece of junk. -Chuck Harris

Re: [time-nuts] Chronometer contest sponsored by IEEE Spectrum

2007-12-01 Thread Chuck Harris
l stay spot-on over the course of a week. -Chuck Harris (amateur watchmaker) Note: If you don't have a reciprocal counter, such as a 5370B, you can also use a good fractional /N synthesizer, such as the 3666[a,b,c] and an oscilloscope. Put the 3666 on the horizontal axis, and the coi

Re: [time-nuts] Chronometer contest sponsored by IEEE Spectrum

2007-12-01 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Max, I haven't seen a quartz watch with a trimmer capacitor in something like 20 years. What they do now days is use a microprocessor with flash ram, and the timing machine reprograms the microprocessor's second counter to trip at the right time. -Chuck Harris (amateur watchm

Re: [time-nuts] EU funds Galileo

2007-11-30 Thread Chuck Harris
Javier wrote: > As a hard working ES tax payer, I think that the funds are right there > :) I prefer not to have exlusive dependence on DoD... You are dreaming if you think DOD won't deactivate Galileo if they need to. -Chuck Harris __

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix & 3478A

2007-11-30 Thread Chuck Harris
ted bakery product.] -Chuck Harris Grant Hodgson wrote: > Chuck et al > > I connected my Prologx 3.12 to the 3478A, ran 7470.exe and the 3478A's > TLK icon came on straight away, with the RMT icon coming on a few > seconds later. Repeated it for good measure with the same

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...It's Alive!!!

2007-11-30 Thread Chuck Harris
, some pretty pictures made, and a couple of transformers rewound We'll see. Thanks Abdul for providing me with such good entertainment! -Chuck Harris Prologix wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Please make sure the adapter is properly seated. Also, see if using a GPIB > cable makes a dif

Re: [time-nuts] Of rubidium life and piggy-bank anemia....

2007-11-29 Thread Chuck Harris
I think the rest of the saying probably is: "Give him three clocks, and he will start to calculate Allen Variances..." -Chuck Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > But TVB has added: > "That three clocks are better than two.so measure, measure, measure!" >

Re: [time-nuts] Of rubidium life and piggy-bank anemia....

2007-11-29 Thread Chuck Harris
A very old saying: Give a man a watch and he will always know what time it is. Give him two, and he is never sure. -Chuck Harris > This was the road to hell for me :) I bought a Z3801A (moral equivalent > to the Trimble Thunderbolt) back in 2000. I've happily used it as

Re: [time-nuts] Prologix & 3478A

2007-11-29 Thread Chuck Harris
Prologix, something mine can't do. -Chuck Harris Grant Hodgson wrote: > Chuck > > I've got a Prologix 3.12 and a 3478A; I've only ever used the former > with John Ms. s/w and HP analysers. I'll happily test it with the 3478A > if you give me some simple ins

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Answer!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Didier, I am more and more coming to the conclusion that my 3478A is just fine, but my Prologix adapter is a victim of infant mortality. It can't address my Tektronix 7854 either. -Chuck Harris Didier Juges wrote: > I am aware of at least 2 more 3478 at my workplace, one of them

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Plot thickens!!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
sed an HP85B, I have never found an instrument that it couldn't make play straight out of the box.] This is beginning to look more and more like I have a bad Prologix adapter. Oh Abdul?? -Chuck Harris Daun Yeagley wrote: > Well, I have a 3478A, but unfortunately not a Prologix. If I

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Answer!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
e which is true, but it will have to wait for a while. Thanks to all for their help and input into my problem -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Answer!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
(Power ON SRQ) is down > (0), switch 7 (not sure what it does) is up (1) and switch 8 (50/60 Hz) is > down (0) Switch 2 (what you call 7) is said by HP to be not used. I have tried mine in both positions, and see no change. -Chuck Harris ___ time-

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Answer!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
Ah yes! You gotta love it when the test instrument fixes the problem ;-) I recall hearing of a few instruments that had scope probes built in to fix strange parasitic problems... -Chuck Harris Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Prologix" writes: >

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Answer!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
en to live in the same area, and regularly let him (and > pretty much anyone else who asks) drop by to use my test gear. That is what I believed to be true. You have said nothing to imply any other relationship. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Answer!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
any months back on this forum. I bought my Prologix controller based on the good reports that all of you guys posted. And the need to control a single device, a Tektronix 7854. It will do that, so I am satisfied. The "Go away kid, you bother me!" approach won't win over many custom

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Answer!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
on the bus... and what is the build number of his 3478A. Mine is: 2911A523XX. -Chuck Harris Prologix wrote: > Hi Chuck, > > Good work identifying the problem! Leaving out the bus driver chips was a > conscious decision based on available board space and was not made lightly. > Ex

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...The Answer!

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
~ Out-+> ~ | ~ 6.2K ~ | ~ GND It would appear that my 3478A is in a non loading tristate mode until it is addressed, and you are relying on the devices on the bus to do their own pull up. Clearly that isn't always going to work. -Chuck Harris Chuck Harris wrote: > Prologi

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
ologix off of the bus... ++ver [Prologix GPIB <-> USB Converter Version 5.0] ... we're back! ... -Chuck Harris Didier Juges wrote: > Chuck, > > Sending > ++addr 09; > ++read 10; > with my Prologix to the HP 3478A returns a single re

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
. It thinks the 3478A should be at a different point in the handshake sequence than the 3478A thinks it should be in. The main clue is in that the Prologix restores itself when I disconnect it from the 3478A. -Chuck Harris Didier Juges wrote: > Chuck, > > The commands I copied in my prev

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-28 Thread Chuck Harris
8A, and the cables used work just fine with an HP85B. -Chuck Harris ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the instructions there.

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
device command. See HP3478 manual (pages 39, 59). Then use the ++trg command > to trigger the device. ++auto must be set to 1 in this case. Sending T3 locks up the Prologix. -Chuck Harris > > Regards, > Abdul > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

Re: [time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
3438A, which is about as old as GPIB gets. Also with a 3437A, which is pretty old too. Something is broken here. The prologix is probably violating some timing requirement in the handshaking, and the 3478A isn't playing along. -Chuck Harris Brooke Clarke wrote: > Hi Chuck: > > It

[time-nuts] OT: Prologix GPIB and HP3478A...

2007-11-27 Thread Chuck Harris
sically, if I do any commands that require bus activity, the Prologix locks up and refuses to respond to even the ++ver command. When I unplug the HP3478A, the Prologix once again finds its happy spot, and responds normally. Any ideas? -Chuck Harris __

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