Re: [time-nuts] Why are 1PPS signals so skinny?

2012-05-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
On May 14, 2012, at 09:33 , b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: More modern 3-5.5V into 50ohm, 20us. http://contracting.tacom.army.mil/majorsys/jab/DAGR%20Interface%20Specification.pdf Is a similar standard available for the older PLGR devices? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net http

Re: [time-nuts] New unit of time measurement

2012-01-15 Thread Mark J. Blair
otherwise be annoying at a light with a short green cycle. :-) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net http://www.nf6x.net/ ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Mark J. Blair
of time-nuttiness coming on. :) Even in its current configuration, it far exceeds my needs for a frequency reference. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt Supply

2011-02-12 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Feb 12, 2011, at 11:03 PM, Kevin Rosenberg wrote: Exceeding your needs? Doesn't seen like that surge of time-nuttiness has hit yet ;) Don't worry, I'm just pacing myself. :) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page

Re: [time-nuts] worth salvaging ?

2011-01-29 Thread Mark J. Blair
. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow

Re: [time-nuts] worth salvaging ?

2011-01-29 Thread Mark J. Blair
searching exactly where the satellites aren't! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency based on mobile services

2011-01-25 Thread Mark J. Blair
-- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Mark J. Blair
feeding multiple receivers through a splitter, we sometimes had to insert attenuators in each receiver's antenna feed to keep them from jamming each other. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page

Re: [time-nuts] GPS Antenna -Receiver Mutual Interference...

2011-01-03 Thread Mark J. Blair
. It'll depend on the particular combination of receivers, the LO frequencies, how much LO leaks out of each one, whether that LO leakage lands in a bad spot for any of the other receivers, how much isolation is between the receivers, etc. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http

Re: [time-nuts] beats was Re: If there a FAQ

2010-11-30 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Nov 30, 2010, at 8:42 AM, William H. Fite wrote: I expect you can do the same thing with an electric fan. Or by chewing something crunchy (like ice) while watching a raster-scanned (CRT) television. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Mark J. Blair
and back. It won't hurt to locate the sensor behind a berm, either. The sky screen and/or its supports will still get shot eventually, but that will be a lot cheaper to replace than the sensor. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my

Re: [time-nuts] A real-world precision timing need....

2010-10-31 Thread Mark J. Blair
this would provide enough information to estimate fun details like ballistic coefficient. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity.

2010-10-24 Thread Mark J. Blair
with suitable accuracy and precision. Does anybody know how many bits of precision are used on tombstones these days? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity.

2010-10-24 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Oct 24, 2010, at 1:58 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message 53601812-fc62-4098-9266-55edf50af...@nf6x.net, Mark J. Blair wri tes: Does anybody know how many bits of precision are used on tombstones these days? Most tombstones are engraved with CNC machines and while I have yet

Re: [time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity.

2010-10-24 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Oct 24, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote: The real mourning of the deceased from fellow time-nuts comes when they realize just how much of precious gear has been lost forever. Of course, we would like to know precisely when the precious gear was lost. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n

Re: [time-nuts] Determining Time-Nut infection severity.

2010-10-24 Thread Mark J. Blair
millions on the licensing fees, thus funding the H-maser that I'll be buried with. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] I have a new toy

2010-10-24 Thread Mark J. Blair
That sounds (and looks) thoroughly delightful! With a proper external reference, you'll be able to synthesize another reference at *precisely* the wrong frequency. :) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page

Re: [time-nuts] GPS backup for the stationary time and frequencyuser

2010-10-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
with apparent time and frequency. With still more effort, one could detect individual satellite signals and retransmit them separately with different and varying delays, thus messing with the apparent position relationships of the birds at any point in time. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page

Re: [time-nuts] GPS backup for the stationary time and frequencyuser

2010-10-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
don't already know your position. Once your position has been determined accurately and you have the current ephemeris data for the bird you're listening to, you can factor out the predictable doppler and use a single bird for timing and frequency. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web

Re: [time-nuts] GPS backup for the stationary time and frequencyuser

2010-10-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
-the-shelf hardware like a TBolt. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: [time-nuts] 60 KHz Receiver

2010-10-05 Thread Mark J. Blair
power is around 15W. A received signal of -130dbm is considered strong, and tracking (but not acquisition or data decoding) can still be done at signals approaching -160dbm. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page

Re: [time-nuts] antennas

2010-09-27 Thread Mark J. Blair
What is the purpose of the temperature sensor chip on the PCB, anyway? Isn't the temperature inside the OCXO much more important? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page

Re: [time-nuts] [qs1r] Looking for good, cheap, external reference

2010-09-22 Thread Mark J. Blair
the cap I managed to complete a 48-hour survey, which I wasn't able to do before. Hooray! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] [qs1r] Looking for good, cheap, external reference

2010-09-22 Thread Mark J. Blair
more work on the power supply, so I can open it back up to check the temperature sensor revision. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt initial check out?

2010-09-19 Thread Mark J. Blair
with an oscilloscope (and everything else reads green, of course), then I'd say that your Tbolt is likely to be in good shape. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-10 Thread Mark J. Blair
wireline communications or power lines to the sites), it might be cheaper than installing hydrogen masers and radio telescopes, designing custom aircraft and flying them overhead every 20 minutes, etc. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-10 Thread Mark J. Blair
position relative to the three sites by laser or radar ranging! :-D -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Sep 9, 2010, at 10:42, Ralph Smith ra...@ralphsmith.org wrote: Paranoia. People making the requirements are concerned with GPS going away due to solar flare or some other reason. Hmm... So the decision makers think that after a solar flare or some other reason (hostile destruction of the

Re: [time-nuts] Timing Distribution in Mountainous Terrain

2010-09-09 Thread Mark J. Blair
an extended holdover in order to adjust out drift based on measured round-trip times between the sites and aircraft? In effect, flying your own low-altitude satellite over the sites when the GPS system is down. These may be silly ideas, but brainstorming is fun. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net

Re: [time-nuts] What position is measured?

2010-09-07 Thread Mark J. Blair
a need to use its PPS output as an absolute time marker? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https

Re: [time-nuts] What position is measured?

2010-09-07 Thread Mark J. Blair
than a millimeter. That's down in the fractional picoseconds time-wise. It's an issue if you're doing things like interferometry at higher frequencies.. I see a bright future selling oven-controlled speaker cables to audiophiles... ;-) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
? It's entirely possible that I've mis-remembered the pressure level, but that's the exponent that stuck in my mind for whatever reason. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page

Re: [time-nuts] WeirdStuff tbolt $75 [eBay Link]

2010-09-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
or responding to serial commands after a period of minutes to hours), so I could have tried out a couple others in hopes of finding a reliable one, followed by harvesting OCXOs from the ones that didn't make the cut. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public

Re: [time-nuts] Maser info (vacuum levels)

2010-09-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
networks. Have you ever followed the yellow brick road to cold under Arms? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Have Quick Tools

2010-08-23 Thread Mark J. Blair
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Re: [time-nuts] Have Quick Tools

2010-08-23 Thread Mark J. Blair
for painting markings on the ground, then. Because the chalkline string would block the laser beam. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-21 Thread Mark J. Blair
their home-brewed phase noise measurement and frequency reference distribution systems. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-21 Thread Mark J. Blair
up the datasheet: http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/184840/MACOM/AM-123/+074853VKvwOxcER.tvC+/datasheet.pdf -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-21 Thread Mark J. Blair
to learn how to do it myself, and then use that ability to add some value to the world in some manner. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-21 Thread Mark J. Blair
On Aug 21, 2010, at 12:04 PM, Bob Camp wrote: There are a number of articles on the web detailing the art of getting one of these to work. Since it's broad band feedback you need to be a little careful with the layout and the transformer. Thanks, I'll continue digging. -- Mark J. Blair

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-21 Thread Mark J. Blair
for the SMA connector version. !! I think I'll continue investigating a homebrew implementation for now! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna problems

2010-08-21 Thread Mark J. Blair
have a somewhat pointy radome to keep snow, birds, etc. from accumulating on them), powered by +5VDC, and with at least 20dB of gain. Used ones can be cheap. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page

Re: [time-nuts] (no subject)

2010-08-20 Thread Mark J. Blair
time the air conditioner turns on. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-20 Thread Mark J. Blair
bought another power supply for the TBolt, anyway, but at least it would be easier to build a power supply that operates from +12VDC, a voltage that's always available in a ham shack. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-20 Thread Mark J. Blair
(I'm in the GPS industry, and have access to some nice spectrum and network analyzers), but it looks like I'm on my own. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-20 Thread Mark J. Blair
subscribed to your newsletter. :-) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] Frequency counters

2010-08-20 Thread Mark J. Blair
than phase-locking its own reference (so I wouldn't be using its internal reference, and thus its performance wouldn't matter). -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-20 Thread Mark J. Blair
as I'm looking at things that will fall within its dynamic range and noise floor. I have a lot of learning to do... ;) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-20 Thread Mark J. Blair
and it has higher reverse isolation and higher gain, but a lower output intercept point. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement (was - no subject)

2010-08-20 Thread Mark J. Blair
is necessary but not sufficient to have good phase noise. Ah, I see. Is the AMC-123 or an equivalent still in production, or was homebrewing brought up as an option because it's not? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page

Re: [time-nuts] (no subject)

2010-08-19 Thread Mark J. Blair
yet, but I'll keep working on that. :) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi

Re: [time-nuts] (no subject)

2010-08-19 Thread Mark J. Blair
one to cancel out systematic errors? Or how about Chicks dig guys with stable frequency and time references. :-) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X n...@nf6x.net Web page: http://www.nf6x.net/ GnuPG public key available from my web page. ___ time-nuts mailing

Re: [time-nuts] (no subject)

2010-08-19 Thread Mark J. Blair
to compare it to. That question is what brought me to time-nuts. I'm starting to read some papers on oscillator characterization that are collected together in a technical note from NIST that a co-worker pointed me towards, but some of them are giving me a math-induced headache. :) -- Mark J