Re: [time-nuts] questions on uncompensated crystal oscillators

2006-07-04 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist
The basic criterion are: - used with a VLSI inverter based oscillator with 3.3 V supply, but somewhat high impedance output. An inverter is not specified for oscillator duty. It cannot be analyzed for this application on SPICE. It will never be a high precision oscillator circuit. (10

Re: [time-nuts] 10811 Extra Lagging etc

2006-06-19 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist
Given that HP's engineers have done such a good job with the oven and oscillator design, is there anything to be gained by adding extra thermal insulation (lagging)? How much Not a good idea. The best thing you could do to improve temp stability of a 10811 is to tweak the resistors that

RE: [time-nuts] Phase Comparator

2005-12-08 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)
It specifically addresses the gain/bandwidth zerocrossing detector issues. Peter ZL2AYX Also see John Dick's 1990 PTTI paper on JPL zero crossing detectors. Excellent. Rick Karlquist ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com

RE: [time-nuts] Xtal Oscillator Aging

2005-10-26 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)
It has nothing to do with throwing off atoms. A Xtal is actually a This only happens in very low quality crystals that have impurities on the surface. Going in the other direction, the mechanical resonant frequency changes with time because, as the xtal vibrates, microscopic cracks

RE: [time-nuts] Interfacing a 8dBm sine output of an OCXO to adigitallogic standard

2005-09-16 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)
I can imagine that the sine wave must be squared off using a fast comparator and then fed through to a logic driver. Are there any integrated IC's out there that does this? It would be rather sad to sustain substantial phase noise degradation due to a floating comparator threshold

RE: [time-nuts] Interfacing a 8dBm sine output of an OCXO to adigital logic standard

2005-09-16 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)
http://www.icst.com/datasheets/ics2305.pdf ICS has many interesting clock chips which can be used for other uses than what they were designed. Worth a browse. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 This chip has 200 ps of jitter! There is no way you would want to

RE: [time-nuts] Symmetricom 5071A

2005-06-27 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)
Never has Symmetricom or any other CBT manufacturer made CBTs for HP or Agilent. HP/Agilent always made their own. I thought the CBT's were originally made by Varian for HP. That's why the CBT burn in fixtures (still in use today AFAIK) are marked Varian Associates. In any event, the 5071

RE: [time-nuts] Warning: HP oscillators on eBay from todoelmondo(Ray Mahoney)

2005-05-09 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)
, but it looks like a list of numbers folllows this, and not the letter A I'm converned this is perhaps a special, at an odd freqency, and not the standard 10MHz 10811A. Is there any where it actually says 10811A on the package? Can you give me a price to ship to the UK. Address would

RE: [time-nuts] connections for HP 10811A ?

2005-04-21 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist \(N6RK\)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Chuck Harris Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 8:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] connections for HP 10811A ? I imagine that

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