Re: [time-nuts] Noise and non-linear behaviour of ferrite transformers

2014-07-25 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
On 25.07.2014 15:56, Tim Shoppa wrote: General Radio used to have some common values of capacitances available in "terminator" type configuration and "passthru"/"bulkhead" type configuration. These were moderately useful doing some bridge-type measurements. I remember blowing one up once, and ta

Re: [time-nuts] Noise and non-linear behaviour of ferrite transformers

2014-07-25 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
On 25.07.2014 20:07, Charles Steinmetz wrote: Stefan wrote: shield side of the coax goes to ground through a 0.1uF cap. For optimum results with respect to high RF frequencies, I'd expect that you would need this cap to be annular, so that the cable can pass through the middle, and the outsid

Re: [time-nuts] Noise and non-linear behaviour of ferrite transformers

2014-07-25 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
On 24.07.2014 18:00, Ackermann, John R wrote: Just FWIW, the TADD-1 uses transformers to provide DC isolation, but the shield side of the coax goes to ground through a 0.1uF cap. The hope is that this reduces the issue that John's referring to (and which I've seen plenty of times using baluns).

Re: [time-nuts] Sad news Ulrich Bangert

2014-06-26 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
A great loss and a sad story, indeed. That leaves me wondering what will happen to his software tools, which we have grown accustomed to using. I'm not aware that he disclosed the sources. Has anybody got access to them and can take care of them? Or will all this good work fade away? Cheers

Re: [time-nuts] HP 10811 update

2013-07-25 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
paul swed wrote: I can't believe you found the transistor. When I pulled it out last night, its actually a MPSA18!!! I had not had time to look it up but figured it was a ebay leftover hunt. :-) At that price I may order 20 of them. Like the gain. Toshiba used to make a transistor with even high

Re: [time-nuts] Very stable synthesizer, alternative to PTS(Programmed Test Sources) x10 or 040?

2013-07-11 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
Jim Lux wrote: On 7/10/13 12:29 PM, Didier Juges wrote: Jim said: "It's like a HP 8663B (not the modern Agilent E8663).. very low noise," The Agilent E8663 has similar SSB phase noise spec as the older HP 8662A (-144dBc/Hz @ 10 kHz with option UNY, versus -143 for the 8662). You seem to impl

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement with a scope

2013-06-13 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
Magnus Danielson wrote: On 06/13/2013 04:26 PM, Stefan Heinzmann wrote: Azelio Boriani wrote: The problem with sampling 'scopes is that you cannot get a continuos samples stream. I think that the TimePod correlates continuously in time. Does that matter for phase noise measurements? Do

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement with a scope

2013-06-13 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
Azelio Boriani wrote: The problem with sampling 'scopes is that you cannot get a continuos samples stream. I think that the TimePod correlates continuously in time. Does that matter for phase noise measurements? Doesn't that just make the measurement take correspondingly more time? Cheers Stef

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement with a scope

2013-06-13 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
Marek Peca wrote: My point was, that DSO is basically an ADC. Therefore, there is some amount of noise, nonlinearity and drift, limiting the jitter measurement. Do you think any method can dig more information from given data than sinc() interpolation and zero-crossing computation? The cross-

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement with a scope

2013-06-12 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
Marek Peca wrote: (..) I have tried it with a very cheap one, Rigol 2-channel, originally 50MHz, reflashed to 100MHz. 2 signals, ref&measured, into Ch1, Ch2. Waveforms (2x500Msps) acquired, sinc() interpolated. Results: short-term single-shot jitter around 100ps RMS. Long-term was of no intere

Re: [time-nuts] Phase noise measurement with a scope

2013-06-12 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
Marek Peca wrote: Hello, given that digital scopes have a multichannel ADC for acquisition, which is similar to what a cross-correlating phase noise measurement instrument has, it occurred to me that phase noise measurement might also be possible with a standard digital scope and some post-p

[time-nuts] Phase noise measurement with a scope

2013-06-12 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
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Re: [time-nuts] question for expert time guys

2013-02-01 Thread Stefan Heinzmann
Can the base stations be interconnected via cable? In that case, wouldn't it suffice to have the mobile device send an unmodulated carrier of low enough frequency, and compare the phase between the receiving base stations, taking the (known) cable delays into account? Cheers Stefan Rick Ha