[time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Dan Rae
The 10811-60111 that came in my 5370B counter turned out to have an open circuit Thermistor in it. This is a non-replaceable part in theory. However, nothing to lose, I have successfully substituted a Digikey Part number: 317-1371 100 kOhm 1% Thermistor ( from Cantherm, part number:

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Dan Rae wrote: The 10811-60111 that came in my 5370B counter turned out to have an open circuit Thermistor in it. This is a non-replaceable part in theory. However, nothing to lose, I have successfully substituted a Digikey Part number: 317-1371 100 kOhm 1% Thermistor ( from Cantherm, part

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Rick Karlquist
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Dan The real reasons that this part is labelled non replaceable are 1) its epoxied to the oven. 2) Setting R20 to the correct value actually requires plotting the OCXO frequency vs R20 and selecting R20 so that the OCXO frequency is located at the stationary point

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Rick Karlquist wrote: Bruce Griffiths wrote: Dan The real reasons that this part is labelled non replaceable are 1) its epoxied to the oven. 2) Setting R20 to the correct value actually requires plotting the OCXO frequency vs R20 and selecting R20 so that the OCXO frequency is located

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Dan Rae
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Meanwhile, before posting a correction I was trying to find data on the oven setpoint temperature tolerance. The relevant HP Journal with an article on the HP10811A is: http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1981-03.pdf One concern is: How accurate does one'

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Dan Rae wrote: Bruce Griffiths wrote: Meanwhile, before posting a correction I was trying to find data on the oven setpoint temperature tolerance. The relevant HP Journal with an article on the HP10811A is: http://www.hpl.hp.com/hpjournal/pdfs/IssuePDFs/1981-03.pdf One concern is: How

Re: [time-nuts] -hp- 10811 repair (Thermistor)

2009-01-22 Thread Rick Karlquist
Bruce Griffiths wrote: One concern is: How accurate does one' thermometer which one uses to calibrate the thermistor bridge setpoint have to be? Bruce The thermistors HP used were quite accurate, so you didn't need a thermometer. You just calculated the correct resistor value for the