Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-19 Thread EWKehren
MV89 may not be the best, I have better, but specs say 2 E-12 for 1 second and tests have shown they consistently brake the 1 E-12 barrier at 1 second. The reason I mention it is it's cost. With unlimited funds many things are possible but my challenge is lowest cost. That is why I started

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-18 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:13 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: After eight weeks of monitoring to 1 E-12, I still se no aging. Waiting for  a change so I can do other tests. One thing I clearly se is a 4 Hz filter response changing the output by +- 3 E-11. It may be more, will have to find a  way

[time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread EWKehren
After eight weeks of monitoring to 1 E-12, I still se no aging. Waiting for a change so I can do other tests. One thing I clearly se is a 4 Hz filter response changing the output by +- 3 E-11. It may be more, will have to find a way to check it more accurately, because of limited response

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread George Dubovsky
Bert, Since you have been running your unit for a long time, what temperature are you holding your 5680 to? I suppose more to the point, I attached my unit to a 1/2 think aluminum plate slightly larger than the 5680 footprint, and that in turn is attached to a painted surface of a cabinet (no

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread EWKehren
I am using a fan that holds it within .1 C Its been month since I measured it but I did report it here and I think it is 42.7C. Bert Kehren In a message dated 1/17/2012 11:30:07 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, n4ua...@gmail.com writes: Bert, Since you have been running your unit for a long

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread George Dubovsky
OK, I remember the fan controller discussion; don't know why I didn't find it just now when I was searching this topic. Thank you very much, Bert. geo On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: I am using a fan that holds it within .1 C Its been month since I measured it but I

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread EWKehren
There is already to much clutter on the list if you want more info contact me off list. Bert Kehren In a message dated 1/17/2012 11:42:23 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, n4ua...@gmail.com writes: OK, I remember the fan controller discussion; don't know why I didn't find it just now when I

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 8:38 AM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: I am using a fan that holds it within .1 C Its been month since I measured it but I did report it here and I think it is 42.7C. 0.1C is very good for just using a fan. What is the fe5680 mounted to? just the heat sink or is there a

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread EWKehren
I am, as I reported previously using a SMD LM335 away from the fan and held down with a screw and a small bracket and I get consistent .1 C. I do not think that I would get 1 E-12 over weeks when my lab has seen more than 5 C temperature changes if my temperature readings are not correct.

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread WarrenS
to Chris What I've seen is that holding 0.1 C AT the SENSOR is pretty easy, (Lady Heather will hold the TBolt's sensor to 0.01 deg using just a fan), AND if you blow a lot of air around, then keeping the air gradients inside a closed 'oven box' below 0.1 deg is also NO problem. to Bert Have

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update (temperature stabilization)

2012-01-17 Thread Bob Camp
: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:02 PM To: beale; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update (temperature stabilization) Well done. You have answered a couple of questions for me. The heat sink inside is small so its easy to see why all sides of the case

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update

2012-01-17 Thread EWKehren
Warren if you look close I did put a thermal barrier on the bottom and have a large heat sink on the top with by my standards a large fan. All this because I wanted it up and running with in an hour. I realize the sides also radiate but putting a sensor at center on the bottom I am within

Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update (temperature stabilization)

2012-01-17 Thread Don Latham
. Bob -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of paul swed Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 4:02 PM To: beale; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 5680A update (temperature