Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Hal Murray
les...@veenstras.com said: > Software 60Hz PLL Yup. It probably needs an AGC too. Anybody got code I can start with? -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Lester Veenstra
2012 13:37 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one b...@iaxs.net said: > Hal, do you have a resonant 60 Hz filter in the pickoff? Not by intent. It's just a wall-wart transformer and then some resistors to get the rig

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Hal Murray
azelio.bori...@screen.it said: > What do you mean with "it finds noise"? When the PLL can no longer track the > sinewave? I was thinking of a PLL to track the input and then a simple compare of raw input vs filtered output. If they don't match closely the difference is the noise that the PLL

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Hal Murray
b...@iaxs.net said: > Hal, do you have a resonant 60 Hz filter in the pickoff? Not by intent. It's just a wall-wart transformer and then some resistors to get the right level. There are the standard cables (wall wart, RS-232, audio, clip leads). I'm sure there are resonances in there but not

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Bill Hawkins
Hal, do you have a resonant 60 Hz filter in the pickoff? The waveform in Aug-09-a1 certainly had multiple zero crossings. Remote-controlled tap changers can do things like that. If I got the UTC offset right, that happened at about 2 PM local time, when a big transformer tap could have been chang

Re: [time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Azelio Boriani
What do you mean with "it finds noise"? When the PLL can no longer track the sinewave? I think that a simulator with such a behaviour must be written specifically for that capability. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > Actually, there were 2 extra pulses. > > Here is the PPS vi

[time-nuts] 60Hz extra PPS: got one

2012-08-10 Thread Hal Murray
Actually, there were 2 extra pulses. Here is the PPS view: http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/line/2012-Aug-09-a-pick.png (Samples every 10 seconds.) Here is the audio view: http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/time-nuts/line/2012-Aug-09-a0.png http://www.megapathdsl.net/~hmurray/