Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-22 Thread EWKehren
-proof it ..I hope!) where I made the connections to form itinto a mutiturn loop. Best wishes Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: ewkeh...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-22 Thread Alan Melia
- Original Message - From: ewkeh...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 4:10 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna Alan, my problem is it has to look half way decent and be acceptable to the neighbors, one time I had to take down

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-21 Thread Alan Melia
balancing, or transformer isolation. Alan G3NYK - Original Message - From: Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-21 Thread asmagal
A. Ferra mafe...@gmx.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna Hey time-nuts people, First of all, let me start by saying that I follow the time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-21 Thread EWKehren
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:30 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna Alan Melia wrote: Marco, have you considered that HBG on 75.0kHz might be stronger with you from

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-21 Thread paul swed
Most of the LF receivers of this type need an active antenna. 10 mv injected is a huge signal compared to what you might receive perhaps 10 uv as a guess. I have a fluke and a singer for 60 khz wwvb in the US and use a loopstick and preamp using a mpf102 and follower transistor. Believe there are

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-21 Thread Florian Teply
Am Wednesday 21 October 2009 01:16:55 schrieb Alan Melia: Marco, have you considered that HBG on 75.0kHz might be stronger with you from Switzerland??. In a lab or other complex quite often with off-air standards the problem is local noise. I have a friend in Porto who used to be able to lock

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-21 Thread Jean-Louis Oneto
- Original Message - From: Florian Teply use...@teply.info To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna Am Wednesday 21 October 2009 01:16:55 schrieb Alan Melia: Marco, have you considered that HBG

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-21 Thread Marco A. Ferra
- Original Message - There is a good list of time signals on the web site of the BIPM: http://www.bipm.org/jsp/en/TimeFtp.jsp?TypePub=scale#nohref in the Time Signals in the Scales division of the FTP server of the Time, Frequency and Gravimetry section. The most recent is dated 2008.

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-21 Thread Alan Melia
@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna Alan, I used a copper pipe because it is the easiest way to make a round loop. I have also used PVC but it always ended up rectangular. If you have a better idea please let me

[time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-20 Thread Marco A. Ferra
Hey time-nuts people, First of all, let me start by saying that I follow the time-nuts mailing list for some time and it's a great source for trading experiences. Perhaps you can help me on this one. We have in our laboratory, in Portugal (near Lisbon), an Adret 4101A Frequency Receiver

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-20 Thread Alberto di Bene
Marco A. Ferra wrote: Do you have any experience on this equipment (we don't have the manual, just a brochure with a few pages [1]), the DCF77 signal itself or an ideia for a antenna that could be very sensitive to this signal? If you want to buy it ready made :

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-20 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message a8e32c24b29949d7a964468af3722...@escaleno, Marco A. Ferra writes : Do you have any experience on this equipment (we don't have the manual, just a brochure with a few pages [1]), the DCF77 signal itself or an ideia for a antenna that could be very sensitive to this signal? Check the

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-20 Thread Alan Melia
- From: Marco A. Ferra mafe...@gmx.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna Hey time-nuts people, First of all, let me start by saying that I follow

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-20 Thread Magnus Danielson
Alan Melia wrote: Marco, have you considered that HBG on 75.0kHz might be stronger with you from Switzerland??. In a lab or other complex quite often with off-air standards the problem is local noise. I have a friend in Porto who used to be able to lock to MSF when it was at Rugby a few years

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-20 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Marco, That looks like a really nice receiver. It is a little numb as far as sensitivity goes, but there are reasons for such. At those low frequencies atmospheric noise will certainly be quite high. So, one way to to handle it is to put the signal preamp out at the antenna, usually a

Re: [time-nuts] Adret 4101A, the DCF77 and a good antenna

2009-10-20 Thread EWKehren
Good morning Marco In the past I had best luck with a loop antenna using a copper tube (one end insulated) using as many turns as I was able to run through it and tuning it to frequency. One can also use a multi conductor cable and spice the ends in such a way that it becomes a multi turn