Re: [time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-30 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 54a20c7c.7040...@skybase.net, Tim writes: Not knowing much about the PRS10, I'm just wondering if its worth the ri$k :) You need to hold that price up against the fact that a new PRS10 is $1600. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 p...@freebsd.org

Re: [time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-30 Thread Vasco Soares
and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 2:22 AM Subject: [time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ? Hi all, Been on the lookout for a PRS10 to build a GPSDO+RB arrangement and I see these... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanford-Research-Systems-SRS-PRS10-Rubidium

Re: [time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-30 Thread Didier Juges
Check the difference between the LPRO and PRS-10 on John Miles' page: http://www.ke5fx.com/rb.htm Assuming these plots are representative of what you are likely to get from eBay parts (a pretty big assumption right there), the main advantage of the PRS-10 seems to be at high tau, where the

[time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-30 Thread Bruce Hunter via time-nuts
My experience has been similar to Vasco's. Of three defective PRS-10s acquired for about $100 or less each, one had a bad MiniCircuits 400 MHz VCO module and was an easy fix. Another had a rubidium bulb issue that I traced to the driving FET. I managed to replace the FET, but the

Re: [time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-30 Thread paul swed
$219 for a bad RB seems to be silly. Sorry I am not that much of a gambler. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Tue, Dec 30, 2014 at 8:17 AM, Didier Juges shali...@gmail.com wrote: Check the difference between the LPRO and PRS-10 on John Miles' page: http://www.ke5fx.com/rb.htm Assuming these plots are

Re: [time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-30 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If indeed these PRS-10’s are out of TS boxes (and that’s a real good guess) there is one other thing to consider: Not all PRS-10’s are created equal. Some have fancy disciplining firmware in them. Some have better temperature specs. Some have better ADEV specs. Some (may) have longer

Re: [time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-30 Thread Bob Camp
Hi There is a lot of *stuff* in an Rb beyond just the lamp. It *could* be as simple as a VCXO centering adjustment. It also could be an alignment adjustment. I don’t believe there are any schematics out there on these devices, so it’s a “trace it out and see” sort of fix. Even with the

Re: [time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-30 Thread Charles Steinmetz
Bruce wrote: By the way, The TS-2500 is a GPS-referenced source; however, the unit seems to compare its internal crystal oscillator with GPS, the PRS-10, and other 10 MHz sources (that can be connected for monitoring) and keeps track of their behaviors with a microprocessor. It appears the

[time-nuts] Are these PRS10's worth it ?

2014-12-29 Thread Tim
Hi all, Been on the lookout for a PRS10 to build a GPSDO+RB arrangement and I see these... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanford-Research-Systems-SRS-PRS10-Rubidium-Freq-Standard-12344101-08-no-lock-/231435472155 Is this just a reheat-the-bulb fix or do you suspect something more ? Not knowing