Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Bob Bownes
Going on recollection. Now I’ll have to go look again. > On Oct 23, 2017, at 17:06, Jeremy Elson wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Bob Bownes wrote: >> >> Will it work? Probably. Up to a point. >> >> Is is best practice? Not even close. >> >> Each device will (should?) generally

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Jeremy Elson
On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:49 PM, Bob Bownes wrote: > Will it work? Probably. Up to a point. > > Is is best practice? Not even close. > > Each device will (should?) generally present a 50Ω termination. In the case > of instruments that provide their own ref output which is then looped back > in, t

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Jeremy Elson
Is there an easy way to measure the per-device load, or do you typically just go by whatever the datasheet says? I suppose I could just hook everything up and then check the amplitude of the signal at the far end. On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 1:43 PM, John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > To some extent, it

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The only other thing to consider is switching stuff on and off. A distribution amplifier or a tap system gives you some isolation between devices. One can go short circuit or back feed a noise burst and the others will not be impacted. Does this matter? In a lot of cases the answer is no.

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
On 10/23/2017 04:52 PM, Hal Murray wrote: But if any of the EXT REF are low-z inputs, that won't work so well. Unless there is only one. Then you can use it as the last one and you don't need the explicit terminator. Good point. ___ time-nuts maili

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Bob Bownes
Will it work? Probably. Up to a point. Is is best practice? Not even close. Each device will (should?) generally present a 50Ω termination. In the case of instruments that provide their own ref output which is then looped back in, they may be different, but I don't recall seeing any that said any

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Hal Murray
> But if any of the EXT REF are low-z inputs, that won't work so well. Unless there is only one. Then you can use it as the last one and you don't need the explicit terminator. -- These are my opinions. I hate spam. ___ time-nuts mailing list --

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
To some extent, it depends on the load presented by each device. The "EXT REF" input on many pieces of test equipment is fairly high impedance (maybe 10k?) and you can drive several of those with a single output, putting a 50 ohm load at the end of the line to provide a reasonable termination.

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Jeremy Elson
I was about to ask a related question of the list: when do you need a distribution amplifier, and when is it sufficient to just have a single (linear) run of coax? I have a GPSDO (Nick Sayer's device) that I want to use to feed a few other pieces of equipment in my lab (an HP5335A, John Ackermann'

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi The correct answer to any real question like this is “that depends”. For anything that I normally run as test gear, noise outside a very narrow bandwidth really does not matter much. The test gear *assumes* (by design) that the reference signal going into the “ref in” jack is not very cle

Re: [time-nuts] Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO

2017-10-23 Thread Tom Van Baak
List -- Don is having email trouble, but here's his posting: -- From: donaldbcol...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 1:38 AM Subject: Distribution divider/amplifier for 10MHz GPSDO Hello group. I`m intending to distribute, via 50 Ohm coax, frequency reference signals to my test equ