[time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-06-03 Thread Donald E. Pauly
https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2017-Jun/date.html We finally got in the Panasonic thermal fuses for the HP10811 and have a few extra. They will either plug in or solder. Contact me if you need one. πθ°μΩω±√·Γλ WB0KVV -- Forwarded message -- From: Van Horn, David

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Jeremy Nichols
pped. But for the > grace of G-d, the house would have burnt down. A thermal fuse in the > transformer would have prevented several thousand dollars of damage. > That would have paid for over a thousand thermal fuses. > > πθ°μΩω±√·Γλ > WB0KVV > > ---- Forwarded message -

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Van Horn, David
There's an excellent article out there on the web called "Low Voltage, the incompetent ignition source" I highly recommend a read. I dealt with a case like this a couple years ago. Failed fet in an H bridge caused a fault which the brick SMPS picked up as a short, and went into "hiccup" mode

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Donald E. Pauly
Forwarded message -- From: David G. McGaw <david.g.mc...@dartmouth.edu> Date: Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> I too have had a fuse

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread ewkehren via time-nuts
11:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse I too have had a fuse open up due to a failed thermistor in a HP10811. David N1HAC On 5/10/17 7:43 PM, Dan Rae wrote: > As

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread David G. McGaw
I too have had a fuse open up due to a failed thermistor in a HP10811. David N1HAC On 5/10/17 7:43 PM, Dan Rae wrote: As I reported the last time this subject came up, or maybe the time before, the only time I had an open thermal fuse was in a 10811 that had an open thermistor. I was able

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Hal Murray
kb...@n1k.org said: > The is related to safety (full time power on). As it worked out, the fuse > did not help them in that respect. The Fed’s still ruled the gear had to be > shut off at night. Could you please say more... Does that mean unplugging gear with always-on OCXOs? Or dumping

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-10 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
The view from inside HP when I worked with the people who designed and built the 10811 some 35-40 years ago was that: 1. 10811 ovens rarely fail. 2. When they do fail, it is rarely because the oven runs away. I know I have never encountered a runaway. No one at HP had a "trophy" on their

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-10 Thread Dan Rae
As I reported the last time this subject came up, or maybe the time before, the only time I had an open thermal fuse was in a 10811 that had an open thermistor. I was able to replace that and get the OCXO working, but if the fuse had been replaced with a wire link I'm sure the entire oven

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-10 Thread Bob kb8tq
t or eBay which > have a higher proportion of nuisance blows. > > πθ°μΩω±√·Γλ > WB0KVV > > From: Mike Feher <mfe...@eozinc.com> > Date: Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:10 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse > To: Discussion of precise time and freq

[time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-10 Thread Donald E. Pauly
of nuisance blows. πθ°μΩω±√·Γλ WB0KVV From: Mike Feher <mfe...@eozinc.com> Date: Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Respectfully I disagree. I have totally

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-09 Thread Mike Feher
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[time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-09 Thread Donald E. Pauly
https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2017-May/date.html I disagree about permanently jumpering the thermal fuse. The oscillator is rated down to -55° C and the oven can maintain 82° C at that temperature. This is a 137° C rise. It is likely capable of more heat than that. At 25° C, it