Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-28 Thread Tom Harris
@febo.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz? Hi If you go back into the Frequency Control Symposium papers from the 1980's there are several of them from the power line people on using GPS to track 60 Hz. They have kept at it ever

[time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Stewart
My Tymeter just clacked over to 50 minutes after, and I had a sudden vision of GPS locking its input to 60 Hz, like in the good old days when the power companies cared about frequency.  =)  Has anyone actually gone that far in their time-madness? Bob - AE6RV

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Tim Shoppa
http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-nixie/ shows a KVARZ CH1-75 Active Hydrogen Maser (5 MHz) through a HP 3325B synthesizer (60 Hz) through a HP 6827A bipolar power supply (100 VAC) to generate a 60 Hz mains. At http://leapsecond.com/pages/mains/ he also shows the 60Hz grid meandering forward and

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you go back into the Frequency Control Symposium papers from the 1980's there are several of them from the power line people on using GPS to track 60 Hz. They have kept at it ever since. Their main interest is in tracking phase across a large network, rather than locking up generators

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Stewart
and a good clock. Bob From: Bob Camp li...@rtty.us To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz? Hi If you go back into the Frequency Control

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Richard Solomon
That's one big Pocket Watch HI HI 73, Dick, W1KSZ On 7/27/2013 12:11 PM, Tim Shoppa wrote: http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-nixie/ shows a KVARZ CH1-75 Active Hydrogen Maser (5 MHz) through a HP 3325B synthesizer (60 Hz) through a HP 6827A bipolar power supply (100 VAC) to generate a 60 Hz

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Camp
UPS and a good clock. Bob From: Bob Camp li...@rtty.us To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz? Hi If you go back

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Hal Murray
The guys who put up the original papers were from Quebec Hydro. Their issue was trying to set things up independent of the grid and dispatch power to where ever it was needed. Once they demonstrated it was possible a lot of other people became interested. Oddly enough at dinner I brought up

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Chris Albertson
measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz? Hi If you go back into the Frequency Control Symposium papers from the 1980's there are several of them from the power line people on using GPS to track 60 Hz. They have kept

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Apparently if you are generating hydro station type levels and sending it out over long distance lines, the EMI is pretty fierce. They tried various LF and HF solutions and could not get a good enough signal to be useful. Bob On Jul 27, 2013, at 6:38 PM, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net

Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Gordon Batey
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Re: [time-nuts] GPS locked 60Hz?

2013-07-27 Thread Bob Camp
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