Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread Gregory Beat
Ulf - Yes, this question, about the HP 105B, was asked in September 2016. https://www.febo.com/pipermail/time-nuts/2016-September/100436.html In Europe, it is virtually impossible (RoHS) to acquire NiCad batteries for past decade — unless you are an exempt entity. IF you desire a DIY Build,

Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread Ian Stirling
I have two Powerex MH-808M for sixteen cells. I have two 105B and I have modified them with a custom connector and holder so that I can remove the cells and charge them in the 808, then put them back, disconnecting the trickle charger. Ian -- ___

Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread Van Horn, David
On Behalf Of Brooke Clarke Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 11:48 AM To: Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack? Hi Ulf: There's another problem with switching to Ni-MH and that's related to the heat generated when charging them.  You

Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread Van Horn, David
105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack? Since NiMH cells typically have over twice the capacity of NiCad cells, a C/10 charger will charge them at less than C/20.It's best to trickle charge NiMH cells in the C/30 to C/40 range, but depending on the cell C/20 might be OK. Measure

Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Ulf: There's another problem with switching to Ni-MH and that's related to the heat generated when charging them.  You can charge Ni-Cad batteries without monitoring the pack temperature, but with Ni-MH cells you must monitor the pack temperature.  I would suggest avoiding the Ni-MH option. 

[time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread Mark Sims
Since NiMH cells typically have over twice the capacity of NiCad cells, a C/10 charger will charge them at less than C/20.It's best to trickle charge NiMH cells in the C/30 to C/40 range, but depending on the cell C/20 might be OK. Measure your charge current on a discharged pack and

Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread S McGrath
5, 2018 10:00 AM > To: Ulf Kylenfall; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack? > > Ulf > A drop in replacement for nicads is nickle metal hydride or NiMh. Nicads are > still available but can be

Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread Van Horn, David
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack? Ulf A drop in replacement for nicads is nickle metal hydride or NiMh. Nicads are still available but can be expensive. The other comment I would make is the 1970s charging circuits were pretty crude

Re: [time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread paul swed
Ulf A drop in replacement for nicads is nickle metal hydride or NiMh. Nicads are still available but can be expensive. The other comment I would make is the 1970s charging circuits were pretty crude and lead to boiled batteries. If your going to invest in an internal battery you may want to

[time-nuts] HP 105B: Modern replacement for NiCad battery pack?

2018-01-05 Thread Ulf Kylenfall via time-nuts
Gentlemen, I may have asked this question before... I am looking for a modern replacement for the NiCadbattery pack used in the HP 105B. One such 105that I salvaged have been standing on a shelf with thebatteries "happily boiling away". So, what kind of chemistry would be possible to