Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065a Rb ref update and question on time scale

2011-10-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 30/09/11 17:46, cdel...@juno.com wrote: Paul, The time scale selection is to match the offset in each particular receiver section and thus put it on frequency. Once there you can use the chart to determine offsets from the value you use. The synthesizer setting by virtue of how its designed

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065a Rb ref update and question on time scale

2011-10-01 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Paul, On 01/10/11 16:05, paul swed wrote: Magnus, Indeed on my 5065a 8714 seems to be the right number. With the cfield I could trim to the gps just fine and hit the stability specification. By the table thats says I am -250 parts. OK, it works. Yes. But I would think I should be at

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065a Rb ref update and question on time scale

2011-10-01 Thread Tom Van Baak
I am curious that maybe back in 1974 atomic time was one thing and then a correction was done that makes it -250 from what it was. Maybe a historical adjustment. Hi Paul, In the 1960's when the 5061A and 5065A were designed the official, legal second was still based on the rotation rate of the

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5065a Rb ref update and question on time scale

2011-10-01 Thread J. Forster
How does an HP 117A create either one? It's a VLF Receiver that compares your local standard to WWVB, then as now. -John = Anyone doing precision time or frequency back then faced a real problem: which second do you use? The legal one or the stable one? Various hp products

[time-nuts] HP 5065a Rb ref update and question on time scale

2011-10-01 Thread cdelect
When manufacturing the cells for the 5065A receiver package it was not feasable or cost effective to try and make each cell exactly on frequency. With the sythesizer designed the way it was all thay had to do was make sure that cells would fall within the 0 to +1000X10-10th range. That way they

[time-nuts] HP 5065a Rb ref update and question on time scale

2011-09-30 Thread cdelect
Paul, The time scale selection is to match the offset in each particular receiver section and thus put it on frequency. Once there you can use the chart to determine offsets from the value you use. The synthesizer setting by virtue of how its designed does not allow one digit changes! You have

[time-nuts] HP 5065a Rb ref update and question on time scale

2011-09-29 Thread paul swed
Well the 5065a has settled in very nicely from its failure that I documented for everyone. Its at specification and actually 2nd harmonics actually higher then the original numbers by 10 units. But as I went through the process to realign it to GPS several questions came up. The time scale has