Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-11 Thread Steve Rooke
Hi Douglas, I have no experience with this beast but to draw this sort of current it points to a possible bypass cap short. If there are any dipped tants in there, there is a high possibility that one or more of them have gone short. If you have a good 4-wire ohm meter and a kelvin probe, just che

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Ed Palmer
Hal Murray wrote: [variac] If you don't have one, you can wire a light bulb in series with the power cord. Use 40,60,100 watt - whatever you need. Neat. Thanks. That trick wasn't on my list. I think you can get lower wattage bulbs (at 120V). I think I've seen 25W, but I'm not su

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Bob Martinson
12:50 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide... [variac] > If you don't have one, you can wire a light bulb in series with the > power cord. Use 40,60,100 watt - whatever you need. Ne

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Neville Michie
Hi, I use a Variac routinely to turn on instruments that have been unused for more than a few months. Electrolytic capacitors will often come good if slowly brought up to voltage. Recently I resurrected a WW2 "Command" receiver that had been stored for 40 years. I hooked up a power supply an

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Hal Murray
[variac] > If you don't have one, you can wire a light bulb in series with the > power cord. Use 40,60,100 watt - whatever you need. Neat. Thanks. That trick wasn't on my list. I think you can get lower wattage bulbs (at 120V). I think I've seen 25W, but I'm not sure. Old style tungsten ni

[time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Mark Sims
Probably 90% of power supply overload problems are shorted dipped tantalum caps. Start there... check the resistance across each supply. The other 90% are shorted pass transistors/base drivers and/or zener diodes. You mentioned that you have more than one of these units. Compare reading

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Ed Palmer
Hi Dave, I think we've all lost some hair while working on a stubborn problem. Hang in there. As mentioned by Brent Gordon, the Variac is your friend in situations like this. If you don't have one, you can wire a light bulb in series with the power cord. Use 40,60,100 watt - whatever you need. Th

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Dave M
I'm not familiar with this particular instrument, but a standard technique for linear power supplies is to hook it up to a variac. This lets you turn down the line voltage so you can do some measurements without smoking the system. Brent Douglas Wire - PUPCo Studios wrote: Good day everyone an

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Neither the linear regulators nor the switching regulators in the 5328A have any explicit current limiting circuitry other than that provided by the pass transistor current gain and the limited current available from the pass element driver. The only protection against long term load faults is pro

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Brent Gordon
I'm not familiar with this particular instrument, but a standard technique for linear power supplies is to hook it up to a variac. This lets you turn down the line voltage so you can do some measurements without smoking the system. Brent Douglas Wire - PUPCo Studios wrote: > Good day everyone and

Re: [time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Adrian
Douglas, there are lots of folks out there that are much more familiar with the 5328A, but here is what I think about it at a first glance. If F1 blows quickly, there is a serious overload / short situation. Don't try fixing by swapping fuses. If you can't measure a short (that would be the firs

[time-nuts] HP 5328 PSU nightmare... Or stupid engineer, you decide...

2009-09-09 Thread Douglas Wire - PUPCo Studios
Good day everyone and thank you all for hosting this wonderful community and allowing me to participate. I have several HP5328 with the “really- nice” newer 10811-x Oscillators in them. I have found while I have used the good old gold trace reliable HP instruments all of my life, these units ha