Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-06-18 Thread Jeroen Bastemeijer
? Rick Karlquist, N6RK -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dr Bruce Griffiths Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 5:53 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator Richard (Rick) Karlquist

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-06-17 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist
measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: AFAIK, there is no manual on the E1938 (in the sense of the 10811 manual). And I should know. I am attempting to compile what information I have and get it archived on line somewhere. Can you

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-06-15 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist
time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator Mr. Karlquist is not telling the truth. I never requested a refund. Since days may pass without a reply to off-list emails and he responds within hours to on-list posts, it appears that on-list is the only way

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-06-14 Thread Bill Beam
Hello, Has anyone on list ever received one of these oscillators? Three weeks ago I sent him $ as instructed below. Since then he has stopped responding to e--mail and I have no oscillators. Is he away on vacation, sick in hospital, in jail? Or does HP/Agilant have other ideas about the

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-06-14 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 6/14/2007 13:44:16 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is he away on vacation, sick in hospital, in jail? Or does HP/Agilant have other ideas about the distribution of thier surplus oscillators? Bill Hi Bill, I think he was totally overwhelmed by the

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Robert Atkinson
, quite a lot of fibre optic and laser stuff too. Robert. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 May 2007 01:39 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator In a message dated 5/26/2007 15:20:44

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Björn Gabrielsson
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator In a message dated 5/26/2007 15:20:44 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: Regarding non-USA requestors: I will need to look into the customs aspect of this. If anyone on the list can give me a tutorial

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Robert Atkinson wrote: Hi, I'd have to agree with Said, FEI got hit with fines for shipping 1000B OCXO's that were diverted to a proscribed country. Most major countries that are allies of the USA should be OK though. It's surprising what is controlled, very high speed 'scopes, low

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Rob Kimberley
FEI didn't make the 1000B OCXO :-) Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Bruce Griffiths Sent: 29 May 2007 09:35 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator Robert Atkinson

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Rob Kimberley
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Bruce Griffiths Sent: 29 May 2007 09:35 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator Robert Atkinson wrote: Hi, I'd have to agree with Said, FEI got hit with fines for shipping 1000B OCXO's that were diverted

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message !!AAAYAOYAZyOzV8ERq+LmT45ypI7CgAAAEBvfOzZD3oJO [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob Kimberley writes: I agree with Bruce on this one. The whole idea of any restriction is to protect technology from getting into the wrong hands. If they already have that technology, then not much

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Bruce Griffiths writes: Robert Atkinson wrote: The actual controlled export items in the new lists were revised recently and such crystal oscillators no longer appear to be a controlled item. But interestingly enough, nobody has bothered remove analogue

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dr Bruce Griffiths writes: Robert Atkinson wrote: The actual controlled export items in the new lists were revised recently and such crystal oscillators no longer appear to be a controlled item. But interestingly

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-29 Thread Rob Kimberley
Sent: 29 May 2007 10:04 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator In message !!AAAYAOYAZyOzV8ERq+LmT45ypI7CgAAAEBvfOzZD3oJO [EMAIL PROTECTED], Rob Kimberley writes: I agree with Bruce on this one. The whole idea of any

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread Arnold Tibus
Hi Said, private international shipment and customs is not that problematic to my knowledge and experience, at least between the USA and Europe. On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:39:23 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Rick, on the customs issue, you may have to check the items against the

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread Peter Vince
Hi Rick, If I'm not too late, I would also like one - or preferably two. I am in England, so PayPal would be easiest for me, as the bank charges quite a bit for Dollar cheques. However, if PayPal is not convenient for you, I will use whatever method you prefer. I have

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 5/27/2007 07:55:58 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Said, private international shipment and customs is not that problematic to my knowledge and experience, at least between the USA and Europe. On Sat, 26 May 2007 20:39:23 EDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread michael taylor
On 5/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CCL clearly talks about items such as space qualified oscillators, or stability better than 1E-011 etc. I am not trying to advise anyone if these You mean it the Commerce Control List (CCL) talks about space qualified _atomic_

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread Arnold Tibus
Said, I am sorry, I do not want to figth nor I want being involved in possible fights, nor do I give instructions to cheat, in contrary, I did try to help with my knowledge of european import laws and procedures for normal goods, shipped privatly. If necessary I can provide some documents

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 5/27/2007 15:25:24 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think that it is obvious for everybody, restricted items or confidential documents cannot be shipped this way. Hi Arnold, you are probably right, it's probably not a big deal to send these items

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 5/27/2007 14:06:11 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 5/27/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The CCL clearly talks about items such as space qualified oscillators, or stability better than 1E-011 etc. I am not trying to advise anyone if

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Said Part of the confusion probably stems from such gems as: Technical Notes: 1. A resolution of n bit corresponds to a quantization of 2n levels. Random snippet from Supplement No1 to Part 774. Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 5/27/2007 16:10:46 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Technical Notes: 1. A resolution of n bit corresponds to a quantization of 2n levels. Random snippet from Supplement No1 to Part 774. Bruce Hi Bruce, I have yet to figure it out too. That's why we

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-27 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 5/27/2007 16:10:46 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Technical Notes: 1. A resolution of n bit corresponds to a quantization of 2n levels. Random snippet from Supplement No1 to Part 774. Bruce

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 5/25/2007 17:31:00 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I still have dozens of surplus E1938A's if anyone wants one. They are in worked the last time it was turned on, but no guarantee of specs condition. I can't accept money for these units. Rick

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist
I still have dozens of surplus E1938A's if anyone wants one. They are in worked the last time it was turned on, but no guarantee of specs condition. I can't accept money for these units. Rick Karlquist N6RK E1938A circuit designer Due to the high level of interest, I may need to limit

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread Tom Van Baak
I am attempting to compile what information I have and get it archived on line somewhere. Can you give me a pointer to the stuff on TVB's site so I make sure I am not reinventing the wheel? Google for E1938A, what else ;-) http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/e1938a/ I still have dozens of

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread Richard \(Rick\) Karlquist
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator I am attempting to compile what information I have and get it archived on line somewhere. Can you give me a pointer to the stuff on TVB's site so I make sure I am not reinventing the wheel? Google for E1938A, what else ;-) http

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard \(Ric k\) Karlquist writes: Regarding non-USA requestors: I will need to look into the customs aspect of this. If anyone on the list can give me a tutorial on this it would be helpful. These are gifts if that matters for customs purposes. Also, they have

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread Had
Rick, Do you accept PayPal? Or let me have your address so I can send you a check. Two would be really nice, for comparison, but if it is one--it is one. Thanks, Had, K7MLR Due to the high level of interest, I may need to limit the oscillators to one per person. I will be getting the

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread SAIDJACK
Hello Rick, same here, two would be great for comparison. I can also paypal you, pick it up locally (Silicon Valley) or send you a check. Please let us know, thanks, Said ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread SAIDJACK
In a message dated 5/26/2007 15:20:44 Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Richard (Rick) Karlquist wrote: Regarding non-USA requestors: I will need to look into the customs aspect of this. If anyone on the list can give me a tutorial on this it would be helpful. These

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread jshank
@febo.com Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 5:07 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator I still have dozens of surplus E1938A's if anyone wants one. They are in worked the last time it was turned on, but no guarantee of specs condition. I can't accept money for these units. Rick

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread Jason Rabel
As others have said, just let us know where to send the money! :) Any other neat stuff you have laying around that you want to get rid of? *grin* Jason Due to the high level of interest, I may need to limit the oscillators to one per person. I will be getting the oscillators out of storage

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-26 Thread Don Couch
Hi, Rick. If you have any left, I would like one. Please let me know how you want paid (cash, money order, paypal, ...) Don Couch 3336 E. Oraibi Drive Phoenix, Arizona 85050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Richard (Rick) Karlquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still have dozens of surplus

[time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-23 Thread Murray Greenman
Hi, Does anyone know where I might find a manual for the HP E1938 'hockey puck' oscillator? Yes, I know about the stuff on TVB's site - what I need is the user manual or technical manual. 73, Murray ZL1BPU ___ time-nuts mailing list

Re: [time-nuts] HP E1938 oscillator

2007-05-23 Thread Brooke Clarke
Hi Murray: Rick was involved in it's development. Have a look at: http://www.karlquist.com/oven.pdf and http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?patentnumber=5729181 You might also ask Dave Cunningham at Agilent dcunningham @ agilent.com . Not expecting to get it, but rather to get it on the