Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-03 Thread Tom Van Baak \(mobile\)
Since several of you have mentioned the 10811, or how the 10544 differs from the 10811, you will find the original HP Journal article about the 10811 very informative. See pages 20 to 29. http://www.hparchive.com/Journals/Low-Resolution/HPJ-1981-03-Low-Resolution.pdf (4.5 MB) http://www.hparchiv

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed - Filtering withsingle power source

2007-02-03 Thread jmfranke
007 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed - Filtering withsingle power source > Bruce (or anyone really)... > > I was comparing that schematic for the 10544A with the schematic in the > 10811 manual. The 10811 has no mention of the inductor/cap combo, so I'm

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed - Filtering with single power source

2007-02-03 Thread Jason Rabel
Bruce (or anyone really)... I was comparing that schematic for the 10544A with the schematic in the 10811 manual. The 10811 has no mention of the inductor/cap combo, so I'm guessing it is not needed when using a single power source? Jason > Attached GIf file depicts the recommended power supply

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-03 Thread Lester Veenstra M0YCM
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Bruce Griffiths Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 11:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed Les Lester Veenstra M0YCM

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-03 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
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Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-03 Thread Lester Veenstra M0YCM
Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dr Bruce Griffiths Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 10:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed Lester Veenstra M0YCM wrote

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-03 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Lester Veenstra M0YCM wrote: > I have a bad 10544 (received from AST) that I am planning to look into. > No 10 MHz out and very low 12 VDC current. > Has anyone the translation from HP PN to Commercial equiv for the > semiconductors ? > Thanks > Les > > Lester B Veenstra > M0YCM K1YCM

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-03 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Lester Veenstra M0YCM wrote: > I have a bad 10544 (received from AST) that I am planning to look into. > No 10 MHz out and very low 12 VDC current. > Has anyone the translation from HP PN to Commercial equiv for the > semiconductors ? > Thanks > Les > > Lester B Veenstra > M0YCM K1YCM

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-03 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
CORRECTION Judging from the oscillator and oven controller voltage ranges Tom's scanned circuit is actually for the later production models of the 10544A with the improved phase noise specification. The input signal to the oscillator buffer cascode was probably somewhat smaller than 76mV rms i

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-03 Thread Lester Veenstra M0YCM
: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:11 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed > Hi Howard, > > Please find attached a schematic of the 10544, hope it helps in anyway. Wonder where you got that one ;-) http://www.leaps

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Gerald Molenkamp wrote: > Hi Bruce, > > You are right. I havn't checked my unit against the schematic at all. It is > well secured calibrated and operating in my HP 5342 operating well within > the specifications. The scanned schematic came from Leapsecond a few years > ago, and I have not had t

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Howard Attached GIf file depicts the recommended power supply filtering when the oven circuit shares the same supply as the oscillator. Bruce ___ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Gerald Its about 30 years since I had one of these apart for (sucessful) repair without the aid of any circuit diagram. At least one can calculate that the nominal crystal current is about 240 uA rms somewhat less than the 1mA in the 10811 with its SC cut crystal. Bruce Gerald Molenkamp wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Gerald Molenkamp
pe it stays that way. Cheers Gerald - Original Message - From: "Dr Bruce Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Tom Van Baak \(mobile\)
> Hi Howard, > > Please find attached a schematic of the 10544, hope it helps in anyway. Wonder where you got that one ;-) http://www.leapsecond.com/museum/10544/ I scanned and posted that in 2001; but didn't check the manual against an actual 10544 oscillator. Should be close enough for a repa

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Gerald Molenkamp wrote: > Hi Howard, > > Please find attached a schematic of the 10544, hope it helps in anyway. > > Regards > > > > Gerald > Gerald The connection of the 10K oven monitor resistor R12 in the schematic is incorrect. In this position only the very small deviations in the oven suppl

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Howard I also have the July 1975, July 1976 10544A datasheets. The phase noise floor specification is about 15dB lower in these later datasheets. The oven controller switching noise decoupling circuits were elaborated to include a 10mH > 0.75A inductor and a 200uf capacitor for filtring the ove

Re: [time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Dr Bruce Griffiths
Howard W. Ashcraft wrote: > I am constructing a GPS disciplined OCXO using an HP10544a. If someone > has a copy of the HP manual/technical data for this oscillator, I would > appreciate getting a scan. I have already received, from a request on > the HP equipment listserv, a copy of an HP10544 sc

[time-nuts] HP10544a Technical Info needed

2007-02-02 Thread Howard W. Ashcraft
I am constructing a GPS disciplined OCXO using an HP10544a. If someone has a copy of the HP manual/technical data for this oscillator, I would appreciate getting a scan. I have already received, from a request on the HP equipment listserv, a copy of an HP10544 schematic. Also, while performing t