Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Don Collie wrote: > Hi Bruce and Henk, > Your point about Bandwidth is a valid one, and as you say, it depends on > the application. > The 400H has corner frequencies of about 10Hz, and 4Mhz, so the noise BW is > a bit wider than this [Y/N?]. This setup can`t measure noise at very low > Freq

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-08 Thread Don Collie
ssion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise? > Henk ten Pierick wrote: >> On Jan 8, 2008, at 12:50, Don Collie wrote: >> >> >>> I`d just hang an AC mill

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Henk ten Pierick wrote: > On Jan 8, 2008, at 12:50, Don Collie wrote: > > >> I`d just hang an AC millivoltmeter[or microvoltmeter] across the >> regulator`s >> output. >> I use my H/P 400H, which will give readings down to about 50uV. If >> your >> regulator produces less noise than this [sa

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-08 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Don Collie wrote: > I`d just hang an AC millivoltmeter[or microvoltmeter] across the regulator`s > output. > I use my H/P 400H, which will give readings down to about 50uV. If your > regulator produces less noise than this [say a 723, with > 2uV], then you`ll need a more sensitive meter. > It mig

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-08 Thread Henk ten Pierick
On Jan 8, 2008, at 12:50, Don Collie wrote: > I`d just hang an AC millivoltmeter[or microvoltmeter] across the > regulator`s > output. > I use my H/P 400H, which will give readings down to about 50uV. If > your > regulator produces less noise than this [say a 723, with > 2uV], then you`ll nee

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-08 Thread Don Collie
is nearly zero. Go to it!,..Don C. - Original Message - From: "Bruce Griffiths" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 10:03 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-07 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dave Brown" writes: > > >> John >> You won't need much of a cap for DC blocking as inputs are hi-Ztoo >> big and the chargeup may well trigger the overrange condition. >> > > You need to put a shunt resistor after the capacito

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-07 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Dave Brown" writes: >John >You won't need much of a cap for DC blocking as inputs are hi-Ztoo >big and the chargeup may well trigger the overrange condition. You need to put a shunt resistor after the capacitor if the input is hi-Z but an even better way is t

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-07 Thread Dave Brown
age - From: "John Ackermann N8UR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:17 AM Subject: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise? > I'm experimenting with some low noise regulators, an

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-06 Thread Bruce Griffiths
John Ackermann N8UR wrote: > I'm experimenting with some low noise regulators, and want to do some > meaningful measurements to compare them (and hopefully compare to > published specs). > > I have an HP 3561A FFT analyzer, which can probably be beaten these days > by a sound card, but has the adva

Re: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-06 Thread Didier Juges
y 06, 2008 2:18 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: [time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise? > > I'm experimenting with some low noise regulators, and want to > do some meaningful measurements to compare them (and > hopefully compare

[time-nuts] How to measure regulator noise?

2008-01-06 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
I'm experimenting with some low noise regulators, and want to do some meaningful measurements to compare them (and hopefully compare to published specs). I have an HP 3561A FFT analyzer, which can probably be beaten these days by a sound card, but has the advantage of absolute calibration and GPIB