Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-26 Thread Loïc Moreau
-Message d'origine- De : time-nuts [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] De la part de Bruce Griffiths Envoyé : lundi 22 décembre 2014 20:30 À : Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Objet : Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias On Monday, December 22, 2014 09:26:15 AM Loïc wrote

Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The nature of a ADC with a built in digital front end filter is to have multiple passbands centered around the ADC clock and it’s harmonics. Put another way - the chip has zero rejection at clock * N where N = 1,2,3,4,5…. They may also have zero rejection at other frequencies (like clock /

Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Are you sure that the setup is aligned to minimise AM response? Are you using cross-correlation? Bruce On Monday, 22 December 2014 5:08 PM, Loïc Moreau loic.mor...@eai..fr wrote: Hi all, My phase noise measurements system give erroneous  results in close in phase noise

Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-22 Thread Loïc
Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@... writes: Are you sure that the setup is aligned to minimise AM response? Are you using cross-correlation? Bruce On Monday, 22 December 2014 5:08 PM, Loïc Moreau loic.moreau at eai..fr wrote: Hi all, My phase noise measurements system

Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-22 Thread Bob Camp
Hi At the moment Comcast and ko4bb.com don’t seem to like each other. I can’t refer directly to the schematic or the page. What you *should* have (assuming 10 MHz inputs for clarity): 1) The RF inputs go into the mixer from what ever sources you happen to want to test. At least one source

Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-22 Thread Magnus Danielson
Loic, If you have a single-pole low-pass filter at say 20 kHz you will have a 60 dB damping as you hit 20 MHz. No reason to get really fancy. Either just do a two-pole low-pass filter (inductance, capacitance) or a two-stage RC-link, or consider doing a LC-series link between signal and

Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-22 Thread Bruce Griffiths
On Monday, December 22, 2014 09:26:15 AM Loïc wrote: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffiths@... writes: Are you sure that the setup is aligned to minimise AM response? Are you using cross-correlation? Bruce On Monday, 22 December 2014 5:08 PM, Loïc Moreau loic.moreau at eai..fr

Re: [time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-22 Thread Didier Juges
Bob, It may not have been Comcast. I had issues (cockpit error on my part) with the server this morning around the time you wrote your message. It should be OK now. However, the new setup is making it more difficult to attach links to documents because when you click on a document in the Manuals

[time-nuts] LNA and Alias

2014-12-21 Thread Loïc Moreau
Hi all, My phase noise measurements system give erroneous results in close in phase noise measurements, I got humps in the 1Hz-1000Hz area as high à 20 dB more than expected. The setup is using a mixer to compare reference and DUT witch drive an LNA