Rob Kimberley robkimber...@btinternet.com wrote:
I seem to remember someone from NPL telling me that they actually increment
the each of the last 10 seconds before the epoch by 100mS, rather than
putting in one whole second.
For which systems? That isn't how MSF works, or the telephone time
From: Hal Murray
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I don't know how Windows works, but most Linux/Unix systems keep track of
time in UTC and convert to local time using the appropriate time zone.
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Windows works in the same way - it's in UTC internally and converts for
On 6/29/2012 11:15 PM, Said Jackson wrote:
This is one day not to be flying in a commercial airplane when it
happens.. Who knows if the gps units crash, if their designers never
checked mid-year leapseconds..
? GPS uses GPS time, which doesn't have leap seconds. And, it's not like
this is the
My GPScon program connected to my Z3801A still shows leap second pending.
John WA4WDL
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My nptns server didn't register the leap second. Did I do something wrong?
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tick# telnet localhost 123
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
NTPns show leap
Source StateUnknown No Insert Delete
oncore_0 UTC
I've got a note set for 6/29/2012 @ 5pm PST. Hopefully that is the
right time.
any way for a challenged one to listen I'm currently grazing for an
internet version of wwv to listen to, but recommendations would be great.
Thanks for the program pointer, Hal.
thanks
jim
On 6/28/2012 9:37
Should have read this before my closing note. I had read an article
somewhere which is wrong, I guess.
Jim
On 6/28/2012 9:37 PM, Hal Murray wrote:
I'm in California, so it happens at a convenient time: 5 PM on Sat.
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j...@jwsss.com said:
I've got a note set for 6/29/2012 @ 5pm PST. Hopefully that is the right
time.
I think you are a day early. If not, I'm setting up to be a day late. (and
I hope somebody will say something)
That's Friday, the 29th. The leap second doesn't happen until Sat, 30th.
I
Leap second countdown clock:
http://www.leapsecond.com/java/nixie.htm
It should work on any browser or smartphone.
/tvb
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On 6/29/2012 2:46 AM, Hal Murray wrote:
That's Friday, the 29th. The leap second doesn't happen until Sat, 30th.
I think 23:59:59 UTC is 16:59:59 PST. UTC is 7 hours earlier than PST.
For a time-nuts list, there sure seems to be a lot of confusion. He was
off a day, you're off an hour.
Besides leapsecond.com, online there is also of course NIST/USNO's site
http://time.gov and you can listen to WWV at 303-499-7111. If you want
to hear it online you could use Skype.
David
On 6/29/12 2:21 AM, jim s wrote:
I've got a note set for 6/29/2012 @ 5pm PST. Hopefully that is the
There's an old list of how to (and how not to) watch a leap second:
http://leapsecond.com/notes/leap-watch.htm
The NMEA output of some GPS receivers is fun to watch. Some use a double :59:59
or double :00:00 instead of :59:60 for a positive leap second.
/tvb (iPhone4)
On Jun 29, 2012, at
Does the leapsecond get added just once (GMT time zone) or does it happen in a
staggered fashion at the same hh:mm:ss within each timezone?
Thanks,
Bill
On Jun 29, 2012, at 10:54 AM, Mike S mi...@flatsurface.com wrote:
On 6/29/2012 2:46 AM, Hal Murray wrote:
That's Friday, the 29th. The
I'm guessing it's just added at one instant - to UTC.
Regards,
Bill
On Jun 29, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Bill Powell bill...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Does the leapsecond get added just once (GMT time zone) or does it happen in
a staggered fashion at the same hh:mm:ss within each timezone?
Thanks,
On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 01:55:19PM -0400, Bill Powell wrote:
Does the leapsecond get added just once (GMT time zone) or does it
happen in a staggered fashion at the same hh:mm:ss within each timezone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ4TWChcKpI
--msa
Well, it would be funny to add 1/24th of a second at 00:00 TL in each of
the timezones, but I'm afraid that would tear apart the Earth rotation ?
Le 29/06/2012 18:06, Bill Powell a écrit :
I'm guessing it's just added at one instant - to UTC.
Regards,
Bill
On Jun 29, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Bill
Of Tom Van Baak (lab)
Sent: 29 June 2012 17:39
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Leap second coming...
There's an old list of how to (and how not to) watch a leap second:
http://leapsecond.com/notes/leap-watch.htm
The NMEA output of some GPS
bill...@bellsouth.net said:
Does the leapsecond get added just once (GMT time zone) or does it happen
in a staggered fashion at the same hh:mm:ss within each timezone?
The leap second gets added to UTC.
I don't know how Windows works, but most Linux/Unix systems keep track of
time in UTC
I seem to remember someone from NPL telling me that they actually increment
the each of the last 10 seconds before the epoch by 100mS, rather than
putting in one whole second.
Google has hacked their internal NTP servers to spread the extra second over
several hours. That's slow enough so
Does the Lady Heather / Thunderbolt show the leap second? It's present
in the alarms but can you watch/log the 23:59:60 event with this setup?
Regards,
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Even the LHC doesn't trust leap second effects.
A slide from Friday morning's status report:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/68809050/2012.06.29-830meeting.pdf;
(start-up referring to the recovery from this week's technical stop)
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It should, if you are in UTC mode.
Does the Lady Heather / Thunderbolt show the leap second? It's present
in the alarms but can you watch/log the 23:59:60 event with this setup?
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This is one day not to be flying in a commercial airplane when it happens.. Who
knows if the gps units crash, if their designers never checked mid-year
leapseconds..
Sent From iPhone
On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:45, Hal Murray hmur...@megapathdsl.net wrote:
bill...@bellsouth.net said:
Does the
GPS units use the GPS timescale, not UTC.
See http://leapsecond.com/java/gpsclock.htm
But that's planes, etc. The ground-control radar folks use UTC as I
recall, and they have dealt with leap seconds enough to know what to
expect.
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http://networktimefoundation.org
Everybody ready for the big event? :)
For those of you who weren't here for the last one (or have forgotten)...
Markus Kuhn as a nice program that records what happens to your computer's
clock over the leap second.
http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/time/leap/test/timelog.c
I'm in California,
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