Re: [time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-29 Thread Grant Hodgson
I've had several discussions with Chris Bartram about this and similar VHF oscillators. My understanding is that Chris' variant of this particular Driscoll osc. has been designed specifically for low close-in phase noise, and that is why the phase-shift network has a low-pass response (to try

Re: [time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-29 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Grant Hodgson wrote: I've had several discussions with Chris Bartram about this and similar VHF oscillators. My understanding is that Chris' variant of this particular Driscoll osc. has been designed specifically for low close-in phase noise, and that is why the phase-shift network has a

Re: [time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-29 Thread dk4xp
My understanding is that Chris' variant of this particular Driscoll osc. has been designed specifically for low close-in phase noise, and that is why the phase-shift network has a low-pass response (to try and reduce flicker noise) rather than the more common high-pass network. The

Re: [time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-28 Thread dk4xp
- Original Nachricht Von: Bruce Griffiths bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Datum: 28.12.2009 06:52 An inductor in series with the 220 ohm emitter resistor will improve the phase noise floor. In

Re: [time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-28 Thread Bruce Griffiths
dk...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: Bruce Griffithsbruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz An: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Datum: 28.12.2009 06:52 An inductor in series with the 220 ohm emitter resistor will improve the

[time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-27 Thread Tom Clifton
Interesting read on a low phase noise oscillator by Chris Bartram GW4DGU http://www.christopherbartramrfdesign.com/blaenffos/oscillator/VLNO.pdf ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-27 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Tom Clifton wrote: Interesting read on a low phase noise oscillator by Chris Bartram GW4DGU http://www.christopherbartramrfdesign.com/blaenffos/oscillator/VLNO.pdf There are several VHF crystal Oscillators designed by M Driscoll. The one shown is merely derived from one variant. It has

Re: [time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The feedback network in the Fig 7 schematic makes a lot more sense than the network in the first Fig 7 Bob On Dec 27, 2009, at 7:19 PM, Tom Clifton wrote: Interesting read on a low phase noise oscillator by Chris Bartram GW4DGU

Re: [time-nuts] Notes on the Driscoll VHF Overtone Crystal Oscillator

2009-12-27 Thread Bruce Griffiths
An inductor in series with the 220 ohm emitter resistor will improve the phase noise floor. The MMIC output amplifier has a wider bandwidth than necessary and doesn't have a particularly high reverse isolation. One could improve this by substituting a CB cascade or other discrete amplifier