Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Ralph Smith
If you are rolling your own I would advise a Soekris net4501 (US $173 new) over any netbook for several reasons: cheaper, more rugged, better solution overall. It all comes down to requirements, budget, and who the user is (which drives the first two). If I were doing a system for myself, it's

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
Basically I need something to provide time within one second. I can't roll my own in this case. At home I have a Soekris box with a custom built gps board for my normal level of time-nuttery but this is not for home. I'm looking for commercially made rack mount servers that will not have

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Scott Newell
At 08:46 AM 11/30/2010, Robert Darlington wrote: Also, I apologize if I'm breaching protocol with this thread. This is just about the first post I ever saw on this list that didn't get a steady stream of replies. I was actually questioning if this even made it into the list till I saw this

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread jimlux
Robert Darlington wrote: Basically I need something to provide time within one second. I can't roll my own in this case. At home I have a Soekris box with a custom built gps board for my normal level of time-nuttery but this is not for home. I'm looking for commercially made rack mount

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Rob Kimberley
of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions Basically I need something to provide time within one second. I can't roll my own in this case. At home I have a Soekris box with a custom built gps board for my normal level of time-nuttery

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 6:46 AM, Robert Darlington rdarling...@gmail.com wrote: Basically I need something to provide time within one second.  I can't roll my own in this case. I assume you don't have internet access. If you had access only a few times per day you can get better than 1 second

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Greg Dowd
: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:55 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions FWIW, you can't go wrong with Meinberg. Several versions to choose from, reliable, and priced well. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
. -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 7:55 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions FWIW, you can't go wrong

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
, 2010 7:55 AM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions FWIW, you can't go wrong with Meinberg. Several versions to choose from, reliable, and priced well. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Hal Murray
But, I suspect that if you're doing it at work, the cost of your time to scrounge, assemble, document, and test would be more than just writing a check for a kilobuck or so to any of the commercial vendors, which would get you a shiny new debugged box with a user manual and a warranty.

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Hal Murray
Basically I need something to provide time within one second. I can't roll my own in this case. At home I have a Soekris box with a custom built gps board for my normal level of time-nuttery but this is not for home. I'm looking for commercially made rack mount servers that will not have

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
That's exactly what we've done in the past (setting it when on the network and letting the clock do what it wants) and that's fine. The actual time isn't as important as the agreement on what time it is. This is certainly the cheaper way to go and is becoming a viable option. I agree about the

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Chris Albertson
I had suggested the same thing. In fact I'd argue not having an NTP box is more reliable than having one. A non-esistant box can't fail. But don't run just one NTP server, run one on every non-overloaded server. You clients will automatically sync with whichever server is best On Tue, Nov 30,

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
That won't work in my application. I can't run anything on any server but one I provide specifically for time, which is why I'm looking at dedicated time servers. Believe me when I say this crossed my mind and was crossed off the list. Just about every system is MS Windows based which means

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Hal Murray
rdarling...@gmail.com said: That's exactly what we've done in the past (setting it when on the network and letting the clock do what it wants) and that's fine. The actual time isn't as important as the agreement on what time it is. This is certainly the cheaper way to go and is becoming a

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread Robert Darlington
There are sometimes delays up to 30 minutes or so due to processing of sensor data till it makes it into my system which is also way out in the field. Imagine a shipping pallet full of equipment that gets air dropped into the middle of nowhere. That IS my network, and it has no connection to

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-30 Thread scmcgrath
of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions There are sometimes delays up to 30 minutes or so due to processing of sensor data till it makes

[time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-29 Thread Robert Darlington
Hi guys, I'm looking to buy an NTP server for a field deployable server system. I currently have a Symmetricom SyncServer S250 which does more than I need. I am considering buying an S200 (same as the S250 but without the ability to connect to an external frequency standard). My gut feeling is

Re: [time-nuts] OT: NTP server questions

2010-11-29 Thread Chris Albertson
What do you need to do? What precision is required and how many clients will you be serving. For most normal uses you don't need a special purpose server system. A $600 notebook PC and any GPS unit with a serial connection and a copy of Linux or BSD. On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Robert