Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 12:36:22 -0400 Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: I had an interesting conversation with an advanced tech support supervisor at Century Link / Embarq. According to this gentleman, their lines are only guaranteed to pass port 80 traffic (HTTP). Anything other than that is not

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:25:55 -0400 Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: I suspect that it's not an unusual stance. If it is common, it would be something to think long and hard about in a mission critical timing setup. I don't know about the US, but in Europe such a stance would cost an ISP most of

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread d . seiter
, September 2, 2010 12:36:56 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:25:55 -0400 Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: I suspect that it's not an unusual stance. If it is common, it would be something to think long and hard about in a mission critical timing setup

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Chuck Harris
With Verizon Fios, I have had several instances where a storm has knocked out my internet, yet my phone, which uses the same fiber, still works. (Yes, my router was on an ups, and yes the power was on...) The internet usually comes back in a day, or so. Because they have seriously limited the

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The troubling part of my situation with Century / Embarq is that a hacked router in their plant, doing port forwarding poorly, would do create the issue I saw. The question now is - did they fix it or did the guy doing the forwarding fix his bug? In my case he's going to be sifting through

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
11:41 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Didier Juges wrote: Not unlike Cox. They generally provide great service, but when problems do crop up (rare, but it has happened), the only thing that they guaranty is that you will get their bill in the mail on time. Any more

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi What the guy was telling me was that they don't want customers who care if there's a connection or not. Since I do care, I won't be a Century Tel. customer much longer. I would have switched on the spot, but reprograming the routers takes a bit of time. Cisco IOS isn't my favorite thing to

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi In this case the company is the legacy monopoly wire line carrier for this area. If you want coper wires you go to them. There is no other choice. They do what ever the government regulators make them do. The supervisor referred to those regulations in about every third sentence. Century

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Camp
... Dave - Original Message - From: Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Thursday, September 2, 2010 12:36:56 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 13:25:55 -0400 Bob Camp

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme - microwave oven and WiFi

2010-09-02 Thread Didier Juges
...@febo.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 09:36:40 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Hi If your WiFi is at 2.4 GHz it could very

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-02 Thread Bob Q
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Hi Back up again on email. It's completely unclear who or what took things down. It's also unclear what fixed it. All I can be sure of is I neither broke it or fixed it. It came

[time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Back up again on email. It's completely unclear who or what took things down. It's also unclear what fixed it. All I can be sure of is I neither broke it or fixed it. It came back up today at around 10. I had an interesting conversation with an advanced tech support supervisor at

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Didier Juges
measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Hi Back up again on email. It's completely unclear who or what took things down. It's also unclear what fixed it. All I can be sure of is I neither broke it or fixed it. It came back up today at around 10. I had

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Bob Camp
, September 01, 2010 12:51 PM To: Time-Nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Not unlike Cox. They generally provide great service, but when problems do crop up (rare, but it has happened), the only thing that they guaranty is that you will get their bill in the mail on time. Any more

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread jimlux
Didier Juges wrote: Not unlike Cox. They generally provide great service, but when problems do crop up (rare, but it has happened), the only thing that they guaranty is that you will get their bill in the mail on time. Any more than that is just gravy... Didier This is the fundamental

Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme

2010-09-01 Thread Max Robinson
of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 11:41 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Off Topic in the Extreme Didier Juges wrote: Not unlike Cox. They generally provide great service, but when problems do crop up (rare, but it has happened), the only