Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-04-03 Thread Tom Duckworth
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches Bruce Griffiths wrote: Tom Duckworth wrote: Bill, I have attached a PDF of two methods we used at XL Microwave for adjusting the internal reference oscillators in our microwave

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-04-02 Thread Rex
Bruce Griffiths wrote: Tom Duckworth wrote: Bill, I have attached a PDF of two methods we used at XL Microwave for adjusting the internal reference oscillators in our microwave counters. The second method (digital) was used to calibrate the internal reference time base of a 70 GHz

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-29 Thread Pete
This topic has been addressed earlier; though with some debate. I have proposed a simple heterodyne scheme for beating 2 stable sources against each other observing a 1KHz difference frequency to resolve 1uHz deltas. This is NOT a state-of-the-art scheme, but it will provide better than 1E-12

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-29 Thread Jeff Mock
How do you pick the optimal difference frequency? I see that 1kHz has a nice numerical property where you can read the frequency directly off the counter, you just need to mentally prepend the first 4 digits. With computers it's not that important, the difference can easily be a strange

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-29 Thread Charles S. Osborne
Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 9:09 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches Charles S. Osborne said, in part, Now the real question is... is there a clever way to make the Racal

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-29 Thread Pete
Jeff, There's nothing magic about 1KHz as the heterodyne frequency. I picked it to avoid power line pickup permit a tuned circuit to limit the noise bandwidth. But, any tuned circuit in the signal path will have temperature driven phase variations possibly signal level phase variations, as

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-29 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Jeff Mock wrote: How do you pick the optimal difference frequency? I see that 1kHz has a nice numerical property where you can read the frequency directly off the counter, you just need to mentally prepend the first 4 digits. With computers it's not that important, the difference can

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-28 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Charles S. Osborne wrote: Now the real question is... is there a clever way to make the Racal 1992 readout the difference in µHz between two GPS disciplined oscillators? My only other counter, an HP5384A, is offscale at 10.000 000.000 MHz . I'm referencing the counter with one Lucent RFTG-m-XO

[time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-28 Thread Chris Erickson
Actually, after two days of studying catalogs and datasheets, I think I found a suitable replacement switch. The trick is to find the ones made for tape packaging, which only have 2 pins -- the others have 4. The Omron B3F-6050, available through Digikey as part no. SW798-ND is $0.28 each for 100

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-28 Thread Dan Rae
Back to the switches... I found a Jameco bag for the ones I bought way back, which fitted pretty well and work. The part number was 115086, then quoted for KIE22, but not the same as the current ones with that number. Jameco might know who made the 115086, but there are no clues from the

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-28 Thread Bill Hawkins
Charles S. Osborne said, in part, Now the real question is... is there a clever way to make the Racal 1992 readout the difference in µHz between two GPS disciplined oscillators? My only other counter, an HP5384A, is offscale at 10.000 000.000 MHz . I'm referencing the counter with one Lucent

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-27 Thread Charles S. Osborne
K4CSO Duluth, GA - Original Message - From: Matt Ettus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-27 Thread Chuck Harris
I fixed the switches on my Pacific Measurements 1038-N10 by adding a small coil spring to the insides of each switch. I don't remember it being very hard to do. There is even a place in the center of each switch that is perfect for putting the spring. The springs were something I had around in

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-24 Thread Matt Ettus
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Dan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David McGaw wrote: Does anyone know of a source of push-button switches for the Racal-Dana 1992? I have one that over half are bad. No luck from Racal-Dana or their service house. The original makers of that switch

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-24 Thread Dan Rae
Matt Ettus wrote: On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 8:47 AM, Dan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The last time I did this I found a switch at Jameco that was a near exact replacement. The only difference was that the button was a little too loose a fit and needed a dab of epoxy inside to hold it

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-16 Thread Ulrich Bangert
] Racal-Dana 1992 switches On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Dan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are these switches the same as the ones in the 1996? Mine works perfectly now, but if the switches are a ticking time bomb, I'm going to move it to a area with better

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-15 Thread Matt Ettus
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Dan Rae [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are these switches the same as the ones in the 1996? Mine works perfectly now, but if the switches are a ticking time bomb, I'm going to move it to a area with better temperature control, and start

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-11 Thread d . seiter
Are these switches the same as the ones in the 1996? Mine works perfectly now, but if the switches are a ticking time bomb, I'm going to move it to a area with better temperature control, and start looking for a donor unit just in case. -Dave -- Original message --

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-11 Thread Dan Rae
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are these switches the same as the ones in the 1996? Mine works perfectly now, but if the switches are a ticking time bomb, I'm going to move it to a area with better temperature control, and start looking for a donor unit just in case. They both used the same

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-10 Thread Dan Rae
David McGaw wrote: Does anyone know of a source of push-button switches for the Racal-Dana 1992? I have one that over half are bad. No luck from Racal-Dana or their service house. The original makers of that switch (Omron?) stopped making them years ago. I wonder why? The last time I

[time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-10 Thread David McGaw
Does anyone know of a source of push-button switches for the Racal-Dana 1992? I have one that over half are bad. No luck from Racal-Dana or their service house. Thanks, David ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Racal-Dana 1992 switches

2008-03-10 Thread nnovotney
Had the same trouble!!! bought a junk racal unit (they have several models) for $10 stole the switches from it!!! Sad way to send a unit to the scrap BIN!!! The unit is EXCELLENT well worth the repair effort Norm David McGaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know of a source of