Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread xaos
Tom, Thank you and nice to be back! Was working major hours for a while. Workin' for a living :) Now, I must confess that this project is sort of a milestone for me. Those who hate kids (I know you are out there !) can stop reading now :) My daughter, who just turned six, has been very curious

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread Attila Kinali
Moin, On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 11:42:06 -0700 "Tom Van Baak" wrote: > > A new LEA6-T single piece cost IIRC 190EUR from the webshop. > > A LEA5-T was IIRC half price. > > > > And a little caution: the LEA5 modules use considerably more power during > > aquisition than the LEA4 did and the LEA6. IIRC

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola > Oncore so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price > ranges? > > Your comments are most welcome. > > -George, N2FGX Hi George, Welcome back to the list; you've been quiet for a long time. This sounds

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 7:03 PM, wrote: > The miniITX mobos are quite impressive. > There is no argument there. > > However, My simple idea was this: > > Since I want to keep time at 3 separate locations > and wanted stratum 1 NTP, I didn't want overkill. What is your accuracy requirement?Yo

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-17 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:06:19 -0600 x...@darksmile.net wrote: > Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola > Oncore so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price > ranges? I would go for the LEA modules. For once because you get pretty complete documen

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread David J Taylor
Hello everyone, I started a new project for myself where I would use the RasperryPi Linux board as a NTP server. [] Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola Oncore so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price ranges? Your comments are most welcome

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread bownes
By the way, you need not use a USB serial adapter. Several folks are doing PPS on the gpio pins. Take a look here https://github.com/davidk/adafruit-raspberrypi-linux-pps And here http://www.frambozenbier.org/index.php/raspi-community-news/4439-george-lu-on-ntp-pps On Oct 16, 2012, at 22:03

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
Err... I meant packs of cigarettes NOT cartons :) Quoting x...@darksmile.net: The miniITX mobos are quite impressive. There is no argument there. However, My simple idea was this: Since I want to keep time at 3 separate locations and wanted stratum 1 NTP, I didn't want overkill. Actually my

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
The miniITX mobos are quite impressive. There is no argument there. However, My simple idea was this: Since I want to keep time at 3 separate locations and wanted stratum 1 NTP, I didn't want overkill. Actually my reason for 3 different locations is simple: Internet is flakey some places and so

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Hal Murray
> Question: What GPS timing module should I go with? No more Motorola Oncore > so what's best right now? Who sell modules? What are the price ranges? One option would be just a DE-9 connector with power on pin ??? (I forget). You may need inverters and/or level shifters on Rx and Tx. That wou

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Hal Murray wrote: > >> One does NOT need a dedicated server for NTP. NTP can run on a linux system >> that is also a web and mail server or on e linux desktop system that you >> use for web surfing and web browse ring, just as long as the box stays >> running and

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Joseph Gray
Coincidentally, I just ordered a R-Pi yesterday. I have other potential uses for it, not NTP. If you are not in a hurry, it is possible to find the Soekris boards on ebay for a decent price. I got one last year, in a case, for $50. Joe Gray W5JG ___ tim

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Hal Murray
> One does NOT need a dedicated server for NTP. NTP can run on a linux system > that is also a web and mail server or on e linux desktop system that you > use for web surfing and web browse ring, just as long as the box stays > running and you don't turn it off. It's been discussed before, but

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:26 PM, wrote: > Michael, > > Thank you for your most valuable information. > This is why time-nuts is so amazing! > > My goal is actually two-fold. > > First, I would like to have a NTP server that I can easily > hook up (well, as easily as possible) without > dedicadtin

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Michael Tharp
On 10/16/2012 06:28 PM, sh...@impsec.net wrote: I'm a junior time-nut at best but it looks to me like jitter from the USB Ethernet is acceptably low, based on ntpq -p anyway: It's a minor problem at worst. There are many worse conflating factors and NTP adjusts very slowly anyway to deal with

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
Annoyance with small Linux boards: My single biggest annoyance is that all the I/O connectors are coming out from all 4 directions. What I mean is this: It would be nice to have ethernet+LEDs+USB+VGA(HDMI) come out from one side, and Power/I/O/RS232 from the opposite side. This way if I make a

[time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread sh...@impsec.net
Michael Tharp wrote [RE: raspberry pi ntp server] It's not a terrible idea, but the RPI has a USB ethernet transceiver so in addition to the latency/jitter of the ethernet it also has the latency/jitter of the USB. I've been playing with a pair of Raspberry Pi ntp servers, one with a $15 S

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread k6rtm
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Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
Michael, Thank you for your most valuable information. This is why time-nuts is so amazing! My goal is actually two-fold. First, I would like to have a NTP server that I can easily hook up (well, as easily as possible) without dedicating a Linux server each time. My personal use would require

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Michael Tharp
On 10/16/2012 05:06 PM, x...@darksmile.net wrote: My goal is to design a custom board for the Pi and mount a GPS receiver on it. With this combination, I should be able to configure NTP for the Pi and thus have the Pi act as a Stratum 1 NTP server. The new RasberryPI has 512MB memory so it shoul

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Davis, Zach
/ -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of x...@darksmile.net Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 4:06 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers Hello everyone

Re: [time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread Azelio Boriani
uBlox LEA-5T, LEA6-T? SkyTraq Venus5? On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM, wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I started a new project for myself where I would use the RasperryPi Linux > board > as a NTP server. > > My goal is to design a custom board for the Pi and mount a GPS receiver on > it. With this

[time-nuts] RasberryPi, timing and GPS receivers

2012-10-16 Thread xaos
Hello everyone, I started a new project for myself where I would use the RasperryPi Linux board as a NTP server. My goal is to design a custom board for the Pi and mount a GPS receiver on it. With this combination, I should be able to configure NTP for the Pi and thus have the Pi act as a