Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Steve Rooke
This is very interesting and I wonder if the capabilities of this system being applied to any clock pendulum. If this sort of control any pendulum, then I wonder if it's possible to sync it to some standard. Steve On 08/08/2010, Don Mimlitch donm...@yahoo.com wrote: Jim Said: It also has a coil

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Steve Rooke
This is very interesting and I wonder if the capabilities of this system being applied to any clock pendulum. If this sort of control any pendulum, then I wonder if it's possible to sync it to some standard. Steve On 08/08/2010, Don Mimlitch donm...@yahoo.com wrote: Jim Said: It also has a coil

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Steve Rooke
Sorry for double post, modem dropped during sending and a refresh on the browser when it was up resent the message. Steve On 08/08/2010, Steve Rooke sar10...@gmail.com wrote: This is very interesting and I wonder if the capabilities of this system being applied to any clock pendulum. If this

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Neville Michie
Not many clocks are set up with the gear to modulate the rate, but they are all still sensitive to injection locking. A tiny rare earth magnet on the pendulum (say 1/2 way down the pendulum rod) and a coil fed with a stretched (say 250ms long) PPS or for a seconds pendulum PP2S pulse will

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Steve Rooke
I was rather more thinking of the setup that Don was suggesting as not many domestic clocks have a seconds pendulum and it would otherwise take dividing down a referenced oscillator to the correct frequency. Cheers, Steve On 08/08/2010, Neville Michie namic...@gmail.com wrote: Not many clocks

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread mike cook
Check out Bryan Mumfords page. http://www.bmumford.com/clocks/em2/index.html Le 08/08/2010 11:14, Steve Rooke a écrit : I was rather more thinking of the setup that Don was suggesting as not many domestic clocks have a seconds pendulum and it would otherwise take dividing down a referenced

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Steve Rooke
On 08/08/2010, mike cook mike.c...@orange.fr wrote: Check out Bryan Mumfords page. http://www.bmumford.com/clocks/em2/index.html I did not want to kick the pendulum with a pulse each swing as the drive would be part and parcel of the existing clock mechanism. What I was interested in was Don

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Hi all, I think at this point I need to explain the electromagnet positioning. The permanent magnet is on the rod about 25cm down (out of 100cm). The electromagnet is on the left side and so gets close to the permanent magnet every two seconds. Injection locking would be a simple solution and

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Robert Lutwak
the location of a weight along the pendulum. -RL --- -- From: Steve Rooke sar10...@gmail.com Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 7:30 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread J. Forster
That's why I suggested killing the BW of the opamps in the partial H bridge configuration previously suggested. Transient response is almost unneeded. -John == On 08/08/2010, mike cook mike.c...@orange.fr wrote: Check out Bryan Mumfords page.

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Jim Palfreyman
Well last night I did a quick and dirty. I got my (GPS locked) 3325B to generate square waves (0-5V) at 1 Hz. 500ms on. 500ms off. I ran this through a relay that delivered 10mA at 25V to the coil. By adjusting the phase of the 3325B I got the ON to occur as the magnets approached. But I had no

Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-08 Thread Don Latham
Nice! Don - Original Message - From: Jim Palfreyman jim77...@gmail.com To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman) Well last night I did

[time-nuts] Regulating a pendulum clock (Jim Palfreyman)

2010-08-07 Thread Don Mimlitch
Jim Said: It also has a coil mounted near the pendulum and a fixed magnet on the pendulum bar and this coil connects to a box down below with a meter and a knob. They are labeled in sec/day. The electronics in the box are not clear (being quite old) but by measuring the current in the coil it