Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Simple - feed it in at the high side of the crystal. Still easy - pop out the crystal and feed it in there. More complex - re-wire the base of Q101 so it's detached from all the caps and crystals. It's now a comm emitter buffer. AC couple the signal in there. Of course you still have

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread paul swed
I would question the ability to change it. Not familiar with the radio, but fcontrol feeds back to the 12.8Mhz oscillator by a varicap. If its part of the pll of the radio then no. If its a RIT control then as mentioned yes. The RIT will no longer work. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread Bill Hawkins
Can anyone explain the five day delay in Mr. Gray's mail? -Original Message- From: John Ackermann N8UR Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 6:23 AM Joe, the question is whether the DDS spurs and noise on the FE-5680A are strong enough to interfere with your measurements. I suspect that in

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread Peter Gottlieb
Several of the large carriers have had all manner of issues due to the storm; not only network issues but mail servers as well. Peter On 11/4/2012 11:02 AM, Bill Hawkins wrote: Can anyone explain the five day delay in Mr. Gray's mail? -Original Message- From: John Ackermann N8UR

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread Joseph Gray
John, The radio is on 2M. Joe Gray W5JG On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 5:23 AM, John Ackermann N8UR j...@febo.com wrote: Joe, the question is whether the DDS spurs and noise on the FE-5680A are strong enough to interfere with your measurements. I suspect that in the HF/VHF range, you'd probably

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:28 PM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: Is the programmable FE-5680A suitable to replace the 12.8 MHz reference in a Midland XTR? If so, where do I feed the rubidium into the circuit The long term characteristics of the Rb are very good. But short term a

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
Hi Joe, The reference oscillator is only part of the story. Being a typical FM radio the normal method is to observe when the carrier is in the center of the discriminator's bandpass. The particular center point is not a constant, per se, because the discriminator is typically adjusted so that

Re: [time-nuts] Rubidium as radio reference

2012-11-04 Thread WB6BNQ
Joseph Gray wrote: Internet is flaky lately. I'll be brief, as I'm sending this from my phone. I don't need timenut accuracy for this. I want to make a setup for measuring off the air, so local amateurs can have some way to check a radio. Using a service