Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 05/28/2011 04:12 AM, Mark Sims wrote: The spikes are due to an artifact in the way the Tbolt firmware reads the temperature sensor chip. It reads two registers and combine the values to get a high-res temp reading. But if the firmware accesses the registers in-between the time that the

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-28 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 5/27/2011 10:58 PM, WarrenS wrote: The Tbolt uses a special method to get high resolution data from its temperature sensor by combining three things. The first is the sensor's standard data output which is used for the most significant bits. This gives about 1 deg resolution. 2nd an

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-28 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 5/27/2011 10:58 PM, WarrenS wrote: The Tbolt uses a special method to get high resolution data from its temperature sensor by combining three things. The first is the sensor's standard data output which is used for the most significant bits. This gives about 1 deg resolution. 2nd an internal

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-28 Thread Tom Van Baak
The problem is actually with all three parts: the 1620 sensor, TBolt firmware, and with Heather. Let me explain. 1) While the root cause is an anomaly in the DS1620 chip, Dallas identified (not solved) it and described a work-around after Weather Station users noticed glitches in the late 90's.

[time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-28 Thread Will Matney
I am glad someone finally said this, as after I read a few explanations, I could see that the temperature reading would be off somewhat, especially in the resolution used. Thanks, Will *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 5/28/2011 at 11:53 AM Tom Van Baak wrote: The problem is

[time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread Alberto di Bene
I left my Thunderbolt running with Lady Heather started. Returning after a few hours in the room, which is at a constant temperature (underground, no heating, no air conditioning), I found the following plot on the Lady Heather screen : http://www.sdradio.eu/images/ladyheather.gif which shows

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread francesco messineo
Hi Alberto, On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Alberto di Bene dib...@usa.net wrote: I left my Thunderbolt running with Lady Heather started. Returning after a few hours in the room, which is at a constant temperature (underground, no heating, no air conditioning), I found the following plot

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread Alberto di Bene
On 5/27/2011 8:59 PM, francesco messineo wrote: since the plot has a step jump, seems only a few tens mC, and then it comes slowly back to the normal track, I'd rule out at least an external temperature change: the thunderbolt can easily detect an hand in its proximity even for a few seconds,

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread David VanHorn
Does anybody have a possible explanation for this ? Ghosts, of course! Likely an issue with the temp sensor, their conversion isn't necessarily flat. ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi If you watch the thermometer on the TBolt for long enough, you will indeed see narrow temperature spikes. The gif you posted is a very typical spike. They are fairly rare and they don't repeat. I believe LH averages the readings it gets, so they may simply be a noise burst. The initial jump

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread EWKehren
I have seen it, as a matter of fact two days ago I did see a straight jump in excess of 1 C. I have seen it before. I do not monitor constantly, but will keep an eye out. Bert Kehren In a message dated 5/27/2011 3:19:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dib...@usa.net writes: On 5/27/2011

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread Arnold Tibus
I confirm Bob's statement. Such spikes seem to be normal. I am running T-Bolts already since the begin of the time nut action initiated by Tom (TvB) and with a temp resolution of 20m°C. I observed always such spikes up to a few times a day. I do not see a real practical problem. Arnold Am

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread WarrenS
controller has a special routine that cuts those spikes out (does not average them in) so that they do not upset LH's S/W temperature control PID loop . ws * [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak I left my Thunderbolt running with Lady Heather started. Returning after a few

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread Chuck Harris
Maybe a nearby cell phone calling home? Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you watch the thermometer on the TBolt for long enough, you will indeed see narrow temperature spikes. The gif you posted is a very typical spike. They are fairly rare and they don't repeat. I believe LH averages the readings it

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Could easily be. The spikes seem to be random and that would be a source of random RF. Bob On May 27, 2011, at 7:41 PM, Chuck Harris wrote: Maybe a nearby cell phone calling home? Bob Camp wrote: Hi If you watch the thermometer on the TBolt for long enough, you will indeed see

[time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread Mark Sims
The spikes are due to an artifact in the way the Tbolt firmware reads the temperature sensor chip.  It reads two registers and combine the values to get a high-res temp reading.  But if the firmware accesses the registers in-between the time that the temp sensor chip updates them it can

Re: [time-nuts] Strange temperature peak

2011-05-27 Thread Arnold Tibus
Hello In my case I think it's not a rf problem. I am far away from rf or cell phone stations and the shack is well protected against rf from outside and no cell phone nor other transmitters were used in this room at this time. If it would be an emc problem - why is only the temperature output