Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-15 Thread Pete Stephenson
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:13 AM, Mark Sims wrote: > My bet is was just a power glitch or a corrupted message that raised the > alarm and that your unit is OK. If the error reoccurs then you may have a > hardware problem. After some further poking and prodding, I think

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-14 Thread Mark Sims
My bet is was just a power glitch or a corrupted message that raised the alarm and that your unit is OK. If the error reoccurs then you may have a hardware problem. There is an undocumented message that you can send to the unit to set the allowed range of the EFC signal. Default for the Tbolt

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-14 Thread Pete Stephenson
On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Bob Camp wrote: > Hi > > First thing to check is that it really *is* at limit. There apparently are a > few odd things > that can trigger the alarm. What sort of odd things might cause that? It was weird: yesterday LH highlighted the DAC value

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-14 Thread Bob Camp
Hi > On Nov 14, 2015, at 8:01 AM, Pete Stephenson wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 12:00 AM, Bob Camp wrote: >> Hi >> >> First thing to check is that it really *is* at limit. There apparently are a >> few odd things >> that can trigger the alarm. > > What

[time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread Pete Stephenson
Hi all, Lady Heather just reported that my Thunderbolt's "osc age alarm" just activated. The manual tells me this means that the oscillator control voltage is at a rail and that the oscillator should be replaced. It says this shouldn't be needed during the first 12 years of service, but mine is

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi I think you will find that tearing open a TBolt OCXO does not reveal a mechanical trimmer anywhere to be seen. That’s true at least if it was made past about 1997 … It’s unusual to see them actually age out. Most that I have seen still have > 90% of their trim range left. A much more common

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread Tom Van Baak
> Where can I find a suitable replacement oscillator? Is there a > recommended part number? If the original part is no longer available, > what is a good substitute? > > Cheers! > -Pete Hi Pete, I have plenty of TBolt's from the group buy years ago. I'm sure there's a spare oscillator in

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread Daniel Watson
Hi, Sadly my tbolt is sick as well. There is some fault that causes the processor to constantly reset. I already had the outer screws undone, so I popped open the case to look for the trimmer you need. There is indeed a solder blob on one side of the oscillator, under which I would presume is

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread Chuck Harris
Typically all that means is the crystal needs to have its trimmer capacitor adjusted back into range. I have no direct knowledge of the TBolt's oscillator, but it might be as simple as removing a screw, and adjusting the trimmer... Or, in some cases you have to remove a solder blob from the

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread paul swed
Pete, I would doubt anything is directly available. But if there is hope for some hack its certainly here from my experience. Hack may be the actual reality. Got a saw? Good luck because one day sooner then later I suspect I will ask the same question. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at

Re: [time-nuts] Thunderbolt "osc age alarm", where to get replacement oscillator?

2015-11-13 Thread Bob Camp
Hi First thing to check is that it really *is* at limit. There apparently are a few odd things that can trigger the alarm. The OCXO’s out of the TBolt are sold on the auction sites from time to time. They seem to go for < $40 delivered. The footprint on the OCXO is pretty standard. You can