Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Hal Murray
> What is the relationship between the training time and the appropriate value > of the time constant (currently set at 18 hours)? The time constant isn't > the size of a moving average window is it? My assumption is that the filter is a something like a simple exponential decay. The error will

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Scott Mace
o.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Abhay Parekh Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:28 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS Ok, great. So if we can train for h hours we should set the time con

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Scott Mace
ailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Abhay Parekh Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:46 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS Yes, that makes sense. I think that we can arrange things so that we train for 10-

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Abhay Parekh
s-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Abhay Parekh > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:46 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS > > Yes, that makes sense. > I t

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Bob Camp
e and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS Yes, that makes sense. I think that we can arrange things so that we train for 10-12 hours. Do you not think that that is a long enough time for a single loop to be effective? Thanks again! =Abhay On Thu, Jun

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Abhay Parekh
un...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Abhay Parekh > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:28 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS > > Ok, great. So if we can train for h

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Bob Camp
uts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Abhay Parekh Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:28 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS Ok, great. So if we can train for h hours we should set the tim

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Abhay Parekh
02 PM > To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS > > Hi Hal, > Thanks so much for the detailed post. I have a follow up question: What is > the relationship between > the training time and the

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread ernieperes
Hi, the simple stupid answer is: 24/365 Ernie. -Original Message- From: Bob Camp To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Sent: Thu, Jun 3, 2010 6:07 pm Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS Hi If you have an 18

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Bob Camp
-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Abhay Parekh Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 12:02 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS Hi Hal, Thanks so much for the detailed post. I have a follow up question: What is the

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-03 Thread Abhay Parekh
Hi Hal, Thanks so much for the detailed post. I have a follow up question: What is the relationship between the training time and the appropriate value of the time constant (currently set at 18 hours)? The time constant isn't the size of a moving average window is it? Thanks again for your help. We

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-02 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The only thing I would add to that is: If your training starts from power up, part of your hour is spent learning something wrong. Most Rb's drift a bit as they stabilize after being turned on. Bob On Jun 2, 2010, at 5:02 AM, Hal Murray wrote: > > par...@berkeley.edu said: >> I am a new

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-02 Thread Hal Murray
par...@berkeley.edu said: > I am a newbie at this, but have been playing around with 2 prs10s. For our > application we need to run the clocks without gps, but we do get to sync it > to gps *initially* for as long as we want. However, what we've noticed is > that when we train it for short periods

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-02 Thread Abhay Parekh
n of precise time and frequency measurement" < > time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:36 PM > Subject: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS > > > Hello, >> I am a newbie at this, but have been playing around with 2 prs10s. >&g

Re: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-01 Thread Robert Benward
links to useful articles. Bob - Original Message - From: "Abhay Parekh" To: "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2010 10:36 PM Subject: [time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS Hello, I am a newbie at this, b

[time-nuts] Training period for a Rb clock using GPS

2010-06-01 Thread Abhay Parekh
Hello, I am a newbie at this, but have been playing around with 2 prs10s. For our application we need to run the clocks without gps, but we do get to sync it to gps *initially* for as long as we want. However, what we've noticed is that when we train it for short periods of time (< 1 hour a day) th