Re: [time-nuts] Usefulness of high end counters for ADEV plots of oscillators

2015-01-31 Thread James via time-nuts
Hi Rick, Thank you, I was intending to use an external reference and it is useful to know that the OCXO options are not worth paying a lot extra for. Since I'm looking at refurbished or ebay instruments the presence or otherwise of the OCXO options is a matter of luck - if they are there it

Re: [time-nuts] Usefulness of high end counters for ADEV plots of oscillators

2015-01-31 Thread paul swed
Rick Very interesting on the HP5360 and that it could do ADEV. I had no idea and actually don't know how that would be done. I can appreciate the HP Engineers distaste for the 5360. Its very complex to repair. I have 5 of them with the keyboard and they work. The worlds biggest calculator by size

[time-nuts] Usefulness of high end counters for ADEV plots of oscillators

2015-01-30 Thread James via time-nuts
Though I'm new to the list I've lurked for quite a while and from reading various posts I am in a slightly confused state as to whether buying an expensive counter (eg Keysight 53230A or a Tek fca 3100) will be useful as a measurement tool for developing a GPSDO. Given a one shot measurement

Re: [time-nuts] Usefulness of high end counters for ADEV plots of oscillators

2015-01-30 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
First of all, the oven oscillator option of the 53230 is no where near as stable in ADEV as a 10811 for example. The counter itself is 1 or 2 orders of magnitude better than the built in timebase. So don't waste your money on the OCXO option when you, as a time nut, undoubtably already own