List,
It was a bucolic spring day and a lawyer was riding down the road in his red
Ferrari and his arm resting out on the open window ledge.
Suddenly a truck goes by and sideswipes the driver’s side and doesn’t stop.
The lawyer crawls out of his car stands on the drivers side and says “My
Ferr
Bill Hawkins wrote:
> Groucho Marx, taking the pulse of a fallen man:
>
> "Either he's dead or my watch has stopped."
Funny, but backwards.
-Chuck Harris
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On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 16:01:29 -0500, Chuck Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Bill,
>
>I guess it depends on what you think it is that the market is
>desiring.
>
>There is little or no apparent interest in a newly manufactured
>Bulova Accutron Spaceview watch. Modern Quartz watches have
>long s
Hi Bill,
If the Chinese maker put his name on the parts in a visible location,
then nobody would be fooled, and without the ability to fool the customer,
there is no market.
This is not a supply of Ebauche repair parts that I am talking about.
It is more like the guys that are making and selling
Hi Chuck,
I was not admiring anything, just presenting a different view point.
The point was if a company does not want to support a product of interest, and
there is enough of
an interest, then it will get supplied by others at some point.
As to the fraud aspect, that is why I said they should
Hi Bill,
I guess it depends on what you think it is that the market is
desiring.
There is little or no apparent interest in a newly manufactured
Bulova Accutron Spaceview watch. Modern Quartz watches have
long since eclipsed the Accutron's claim to fame (Accuracy,
no wind, freedom from positiona
at at one time they were building
Accutrons under license!
Daun
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Hi Chuck,
Well, there is another point of view to consider. If Bulova cannot see the
need then MAYBE
there is nothing wrong with someone else providing that which is wanted.
Of course they should be up front and put there own name on it. It seems that
Bulova has
cheapened their product to som
Yeah, and I sure hope they don't poison something in the process.
Daun
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r the chances.
Daun
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On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:06:01 -0500, "Daun Yeagley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
The Spaceview is the Accutron model that everyone seems to want (even I want
one),
so much so that the Chinese are now making the necessary reproduction parts to
convert a model with a normal dial to a Spaceview.
Apparently, there is no fraud so large, or so small that somebody in China
won't do
On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 20:06:01 -0500, "Daun Yeagley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I've wanted to experiment with that, but I need to come
>up with another Accutron, as I don't want to ruin the Spaceview that I got from
>my wife on our first Christmas way back in '67! Know any reasonable sources?
T
At 8:06 PM -0500 12/3/07, Daun Yeagley wrote:
>Hi Chuck
>
>Have you ever attempted, or know someone who has rewound or repaired
>the coils?
>There was a guy on the Yahoo Accutron list that was experimenting
>with it, but I
>don't know the final outcome. Seems that wire is thinner than most normal
les!
Daun
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Hi Didier,
I would bet that it still works, and he co
Hi Didier,
I would bet that it still works, and he couldn't get
mercury cells to power it with anymore. Accutrons eat cells
for lunch. You get 1 year and not much more. Remember the
one transistor oscillator is cranking 24/7, and the hum is
audible if the watch sits on any kind of sounding boar
Hi Daun,
I haven't done it. I am strictly a mechanical watch guy. I fix
quartz mechanical watches only because I have a couple in my stable.
It is very fine wire, but not finer than is used in little audio
transformers. I believe it is #48. In any case, it is the same
size as most quartz watc
;s OK.
Thanks in advance,
Didier
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to get bid way up, even for one
that doesn't run.
Glad to get another time-nuts take on this!
Daun
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Hi Tom,
Yep, there was a weak point there, but not for the reasons you
might imagine. The big 300 tooth wheel was a ratchet wheel
that was driven by a pair of sapphire pawls that were attached
the tuning fork by a thin springy wire. The 300 tooth wheel directly
drove the second hand of the watch
> Real tuning form Accutrons are collectibles now, and it is not
> unheard of for
> an unscrupulous watchmaker to steal the movement out of one, and
> replace it with
> a cheap quartz movement, all in the name of doing the watch's owner
> a favor.
Not just unscrupulous watchmakers, that's wh
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> Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 9:17 AM
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>> I believe watchmakers h
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>I believe watchmakers have a device they
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"Didier Juges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not sure if my son's watch is crystal controlled or some other system,
> I know some
> Of course the legacy watch timing machines have spawned modern electronic
> solutions. The best one I know of is offered by Graham Baxter of the UK.
> http://www.delphelectronics.co.uk/products.html
>
> Graham also has a discussion of watch timing accuracy using this system:
> http://www.delphe
>
> In the days of mechanical watches, every watchmaker had a watch timing
machine,
> such as a Vibrograf, Griener, L&R, .
>
Of course the legacy watch timing machines have spawned modern electronic
solutions. The best one I know of is offered by Graham Baxter of the UK.
http://www.delphel
"Didier Juges" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not sure if my son's watch is crystal controlled or some other system,
> I know some Bulovas used to use a mechanical tuning fork resonator
> (Accutron?) His watch is only 2 or 3 years old.
The original Accutron was indeed a mechanical tuning fork (
Hi Didier,
In the days of mechanical watches, every watchmaker had a watch timing machine,
such as a Vibrograf, Griener, L&R, .
What the watch timing machine did, was take an accurate crystal oscillator, and
divide it down to the various ticking rates of the mechanical watches of the
day. T
I believe watchmakers have a device they use to measure the vibration from
the stepper motor or the escape mechanism and indicate if the watch gains or
looses time. I am not sure how accurate that system is, and if something
equivalent is in use on crystal watches.
Chuck, can you tell us?
My son'
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