Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-27 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:06:18 -0800 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: Sadly I heard recently that the US is 27th in Math and 25th in Science. I challenge the old DXers too name 25 countries smarter then we

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-27 Thread Steve
On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:10:26 +0100 Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:06:18 -0800 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: Sadly I heard recently that the US is 27th in Math and

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread gary
Hmmh, they have some good deals on Rolex watches there. ;-) http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14160480823 ___ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts and follow the

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread J. Forster
pleasantries. Cheers, Graham ve3gtc -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: February 22, 2012 13:13 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread EWKehren
Pete Thanks for the link. Now it explains where they come from and what condition they are in. Again I like to warn against ggg*fitting that sell Morion as NEW and did sell FE 5680A as NEW. I did mail my very used sold as NEW back to them so someone will get it if you continue to buy from

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi Bert and all, Very few occasions items like we talk about is really pristine, I expect it to be used and only try to judge about how much milage it has. Most of the dumpster diver level re-circulation folks has low knowledge, and some excel and actually has a clue, but if only the pictures

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread EWKehren
Magnus My beef is that if you advertise NEW it should be NEW. I caught him once before and ebay made him change the listing. This time he had two listings one new and one used. I checked with him and paid extra for NEW and got the most banged up unit ever. All from the same stack. Finally

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-26 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Magnus Danielson mag...@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote: We in the description, indicate the is used. We have to make the best  possible treatment, a full refund to you, and pay for shipping costs  $13.17 If you don't change the positive 5 star feedback, we don't

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-25 Thread Peter Bell
: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of Chris Albertson Sent: February 22, 2012 13:13 To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi I've

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:18:26 -0700, Dave hartzell wrote: I received a few used units, and one was bad. I contacted nichegeek via eBay with the issue and symptoms, and they are sending me a replacement. Assuming it comes half as fast as the original shipment

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-22 Thread Chris Albertson
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi I've often wondered if there are actually more than two people selling all of the FE's being auctioned. There's not much of a way to tell. The only way I can figure is to look at the location they ship from. If the photos and

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-22 Thread Scott Newell
At 12:12 PM 2/22/2012, Chris Albertson wrote: The only way I can figure is to look at the location they ship from. My last package from nichegeek has a UPS label from Sain Store, Dong Guan Sunrain e-commerce center, building 7 Songke Yuan in Dongguan. -- newell N5TNL

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-22 Thread Bob Camp
and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi I've often wondered if there are actually more than two people selling all of the FE's being auctioned. There's not much of a way to tell. The only way I can figure

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-22 Thread Collins, Graham
of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 9:38 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi I've often wondered if there are actually more than two people selling all of the FE's being auctioned. There's not much of a way to tell. The only

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-22 Thread cfo
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:18:26 -0700, Dave hartzell wrote: I received a few used units, and one was bad. I contacted nichegeek via eBay with the issue and symptoms, and they are sending me a replacement. Assuming it comes half as fast as the original shipment, and it works, my transaction

[time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread EWKehren
Just shipped my NEW FE5680A back to ggg*fitting,as you can se below they are in a hurry to resell it. It was very used with very high aging rate. Their NEW Morion MV89 is also not new. Be careful Bert Kehren HI Friend! Pls You as soon as possible shipping! hank you very

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Bob Camp
-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:19 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] ebay warning Just shipped my NEW FE5680A back to ggg*fitting,as you can se below they are in a hurry to resell it. It was very used with very

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread EWKehren
...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 12:19 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] ebay warning Just shipped my NEW FE5680A back to ggg*fitting, as you can se below they are in a hurry to resell it. It was very used with very high aging rate. Their NEW Morion MV89 is also

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Bob Camp li...@rtty.us wrote: Hi I just got a couple of FE's in from the same guy. They all lock up ok, no idea about how they age. One interesting thing though: All the other FE's I have seen came attached to PC boards. The ones I just got were taken off

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Attila Kinali
On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:37:00 -0800 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: This may be true of the re-worked FE5680s too. A reworked unit might have been tested for 30 minutes or so while the others only got powered up briefly. This requires in depth understanding of the device and

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread EWKehren
These guys do not know what they sell. This was a marketing ploy, I did catch him once before and made him change his listing. All a sudden he had used and new. Checked with him, claimed he ha d gotten some new ones bought one, looked very used took the back off, strong discoloration a give

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Tom Knox
...@aol.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 14:14:22 -0500 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning These guys do not know what they sell. This was a marketing ploy, I did catch him once before and made him change his listing. All a sudden he had used and new. Checked with him, claimed

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:37:00 -0800 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: This may be true of the re-worked FE5680s too.   A reworked unit might have been tested for 30 minutes or so while the others only got

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Jim Cotton
In an electronics mall (one city clock square with 10 stories) in szschaduan (sorry my pinyin is awful) [a trading/wholesale center for clothing and electronics 4 hours south of Beijing by car] I saw several electronics stores 10m x 10m with 2-3 employees decent HP, Tek, RS, ??? equipment that

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Dave hartzell
I received a few used units, and one was bad. I contacted nichegeek via eBay with the issue and symptoms, and they are sending me a replacement. Assuming it comes half as fast as the original shipment, and it works, my transaction will still be a positive one. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 11:26 AM,

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Joseph M Gwinn
With any luck, these same guys had worked in the factory that made the cell phones in question. Joe From: Jim Cotton jim.cot...@wmich.edu To: time-nuts@febo.com Date: 02/21/2012 03:17 PM Subject:Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning Sent by:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Steve
Be cautious when straying off the tourist track over there. The Silk Market in Beijing for example. Showing interest in knock-off Rolex's in one stall got us an invite to see night vision goggles in another, and the watchers are everywhere. Steve On Feb 21, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Chris Albertson

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Steve steve-kr...@cox.net wrote: Be cautious when straying off the tourist track over there. The Silk Market in Beijing for example. Showing interest in knock-off Rolex's in one stall I bought a knock-off Rolex. But not exactly there. The seller was careful

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Steve
There it's all out in the open. You can buy a real fake that supposedly will work for some time, or a fake fake that just looks good but is made from cheap (even by Chinese standards) stamped parts. The guy that bought a real fake in August says its still keeping time within a few seconds a

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Bob Camp
[mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of ewkeh...@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:14 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning These guys do not know what they sell. This was a marketing ploy, I did catch him once before and made him change his listing

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Tom Knox
To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Steve steve-kr...@cox.net wrote: Be cautious when straying off the tourist track over there. The Silk Market in Beijing for example. Showing interest in knock-off Rolex's in one stall I bought

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Chris Albertson
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Tom Knox act...@hotmail.com wrote: Sadly I heard recently that the US is 27th in Math and 25th in Science. I challenge the old DXers too name 25 countries smarter then we are. I cannot. Does it really matter? If you are building iPhones what you need are only

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
that means we are not much better at geography. Thomas Knox From: albertson.ch...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:39:31 -0800 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Stevesteve-kr...@cox.net wrote: Be cautious when straying off the tourist

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Tom Knox
Hi Chris; Funny you should mention that, many of my circuits make fire too. Best Wishes; Thomas Knox From: albertson.ch...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:06:18 -0800 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Tom Knox act

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread Peter Gottlieb
in Science. I challenge the old DXers too name 25 countries smarter then we are. I cannot. I guess that means we are not much better at geography. Thomas Knox From: albertson.ch...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:39:31 -0800 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Tue, Feb

Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning

2012-02-21 Thread J. Forster
the old DXers too name 25 countries smarter then we are. I cannot. I guess that means we are not much better at geography. Thomas Knox From: albertson.ch...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:39:31 -0800 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] ebay warning On Tue, Feb 21, 2012