Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-27 Thread shalimr9
be useful. I did not think it would raise such an issue. Didier Sent from my Droid Razr 4G LTE wireless tracker. -Original Message- From: saidj...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] pulse height Hi Didier, yes, if you put a 50 Ohm

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-26 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Didier, yes, if you put a 50 Ohm termination at the far end all looks good, but you are still driving a 91mA DC current through the cable during the high times, and that will have rippling effects on the driver board by loading the 5V power supply down with a 1Hz period. And if you for

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-26 Thread Hal Murray
saidj...@aol.com said: > Nice page, but your first plot with R1 = 0 ohms and no R2 shows too much > ringing. It shows what I expect. I thought it was an example of what happens if you set things up that way, not how to get the best results. > With proper impedance matching that setup will giv

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-26 Thread shalimr9
...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] pulse height Didier, Oh, ok that makes sense, but that is a non-standard output, so not sure that you want to use such an output as a sample case for generic applications. Alternatively maybe rename the

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-26 Thread SAIDJACK
Didier, Oh, ok that makes sense, but that is a non-standard output, so not sure that you want to use such an output as a sample case for generic applications. Alternatively maybe rename the page to "Trimble CMOS-output Coax Cable Impedance Matching" to make that clear. It would be better

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-26 Thread shalimr9
of precise time and frequency measurement Cc: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement , "M. Simon" Sent: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] pulse height Didier, Nice page, but your first plot with R1 = 0 ohms and no R2 shows too much ringing. With proper

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-26 Thread Said Jackson
quot;M. Simon" > To: "time-nuts@febo.com" > Sent: Sun, 25 Nov 2012 3:09 PM > Subject: [time-nuts] pulse height > > Depends on which end of the cable you are looking at. At the source end it is > 2X the cable "length". At the sink end only 1 cable length. >

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-26 Thread shalimr9
2012 3:09 PM Subject: [time-nuts] pulse height Depends on which end of the cable you are looking at. At the source end it is 2X the cable "length". At the sink end only 1 cable length. One to two uS should be more than enough time for all the reflections to die out from cable lo

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height (M. Simon)

2012-11-25 Thread Mark Spencer
Thanks all for the additional comments and suggestions, re the 1pps output voltage on my Z3805's.  I did confirm that my measurement technique gives reasonable answers with other 1 pps signals. I also was able to observe an LED dimly flashing when connected to the 1pps output of one of my Z3805

[time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-25 Thread M. Simon
10:03:46 -0800 From: Said Jackson To: "M. Simon" ,    Discussion of precise time and     frequency measurement Cc: "time-nuts@febo.com" Subject: Re: [time-nuts] pulse height Message-ID: <67f262eb-8e0b-4ac1-8bc6-56d696664...@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=u

Re: [time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-25 Thread Said Jackson
Mark, Simon, First, I can check the 1PPS on my Z3805A with a small white LED. The pulse time is long enough to see in dark light conditions, and it verifies that the output voltage is >2V, and the driver can supply some mA of current. Primitive but works really well. Don't use a resistor on the

[time-nuts] pulse height

2012-11-25 Thread M. Simon
Unless your coax is unusually long it should only look like 50 ohms on the leading and trailing edges of the pulse. A rough guide is  1nS per foot. So 10 ft of coax will look like 50 ohms for 10 nS. Of course the velocity factor of the coax will lengthen that time by roughly 50% for most coax yo