Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd)
On 8 December 2014 at 07:24, Chris Wilson ch...@chriswilson.tv wrote: This is audible here in the UK and elicited many comments on 160 meters last night. Seen as oblique striations on SDR receiver displays and audible as a clicking sound. What the devil is it? Best Regards,

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Is the signal still there? I looked here on the West Coast - don't really see anything. Thanks, John AJ6BC On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk wrote: On 8 December 2014 at 07:24, Chris Wilson ch...@chriswilson.tv wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Wouldn't you know it - about the time I sent that last e-mail - I am getting something in the 1.915 MHz range right now - and you could say this is around 4 Hz or so - I am trying to see if I can get a match on any modulation type - but nothing so far. Definitely wider though. Regards, John

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Graham
this signal is being heard all across the eastern part of North America and there are reports from at least as far west as Montana. I can hear it during the day but at a very low level. Night time levels are much stronger. cheers, Graham ve3gtc FN25ig near Ottawa Canada On 2014-12-07 19:09,

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Graham
Radiolocation may be a bit misleading. Some first thought that this was CODAR but it is not, at least not what I am familiar with but it may be another variation of an ocean surface wave RADAR type of system but it is certainly not like one I have heard before. cheers, Graham ve3gtc On

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello, Can someone please post a *.wav file of what it sounds like provided you have an SDR set-up? If you need someplace to post - please send the file to me offlist and I'll put it on either an ftp site or http. I am not so convinced what I saw wasn't noise or some stations from China

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2014-12-07 16:28, Tim Shoppa wrote: Would any time-nuts know of radiolocation-type testing going on, on east coast of US, maybe around Maine? There is a very strong wideband signal on 1900-1920kHz, with a 120Hz substructure and a 4Hz rep-rate, likely megawatt power range. Sound sample

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Brian Inglis
On 2014-12-07 16:28, Tim Shoppa wrote: Would any time-nuts know of radiolocation-type testing going on, on east coast of US, maybe around Maine? There is a very strong wideband signal on 1900-1920kHz, with a 120Hz substructure and a 4Hz rep-rate, likely megawatt

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Tim Shoppa
80*24 = 1920. 80th harmonic seems quite a stretch unless there is some malfunction (as you point out maybe an interaction with 60Hz heating... hmm... maybe they thought they could use PWM on the heating circuit.). For sure they have enough power and enough wire in the air to do the damage being

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Scott McGrath
Also hearing in central NH sounds like a new 'Woodpecker' Joy... Content by Scott Typos by Siri On Dec 8, 2014, at 2:24 AM, Chris Wilson ch...@chriswilson.tv wrote: Hello, on 08/12/2014 07:21 you wrote: I'm hearing the same signal in northern New Hampshire. Very strong 73,

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Jim Lux
On 12/8/14, 6:15 AM, Brian Inglis wrote: On 2014-12-07 16:28, Tim Shoppa wrote: Would any time-nuts know of radiolocation-type testing going on, on east coast of US, maybe around Maine? There is a very strong wideband signal on 1900-1920kHz, with a 120Hz substructure and a 4Hz rep-rate, likely

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Frister
Recorded last night. Audio bandwidth is a few kHz, but as mentioned before the signal is about 20 kHz wide. https://www.dropbox.com/s/bnp8zcpgw86l6ww/1910.wav?dl=0 This morning (14:21 UTC) nothing is heard Frits W1FVB Whitefield, NH On 12/8/14, John C. Westmoreland, P.E.

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread John C. Westmoreland, P.E.
Hello Frits, Interesting. A little different than what I heard - but of course depends on the bandwidth somewhat. How many dB was this up from the noise floor? Or - what is the signal level of the received signal? What modulation did you try to decode or did you just set it wide-AM? I saw

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-08 Thread Frister
John, On 12/8/14, John C. Westmoreland, P.E. j...@westmorelandengineering.com wrote: Hello Frits, Interesting. A little different than what I heard - but of course depends on the bandwidth somewhat. I think my bandwidth was set at about 8 Khz How many dB was this up from the noise floor?

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-07 Thread Bob Camp
Hi 120 Hz sub structure suggests a (much lower power) switching power supply run amok. I certainly would not design a system that would have virtually no immunity to power line noise ….. Bob On Dec 7, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Tim Shoppa tsho...@gmail.com wrote: Would any time-nuts know of

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-07 Thread paul swed
Not aware of any testing plus it makes no sense these days. LORAN long ago abandoned and was in that range and Loran C in the US dead. UrsaNav has been quite for quite a while. Regards Paul WB8TSL On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 7:09 PM, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi 120 Hz sub structure suggests a

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-07 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Tim, Look for a switching power supply that is fairly new, and is of the sort that doesn't need to be messed with to cover the full 120V to 240V range. That sort of switcher is also known as a power factor correcting switcher. It has a PWM switched pre-regulator that takes the unfiltered

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-07 Thread Tom Miller
: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US? Hi Tim, Look for a switching power supply that is fairly new, and is of the sort that doesn't need to be messed with to cover the full 120V to 240V range. That sort of switcher is also known as a power factor correcting switcher. It has

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-07 Thread EB4APL
Taking in account that is is heard quite strong in most US and even in Toronto and that it sweeps in a fairly controlled way it is an intentional radiator. It could be an ionospheric sounder or a sea waves measuring device of a new kind. I think that an interference so powerful must be

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-07 Thread Frister
I'm hearing the same signal in northern New Hampshire. Very strong 73, Frits W1FVB On 12/8/14, Bob Camp kb...@n1k.org wrote: Hi 120 Hz sub structure suggests a (much lower power) switching power supply run amok. I certainly would not design a system that would have virtually no immunity

Re: [time-nuts] 1900kHz radiolcation testing on east coast US?

2014-12-07 Thread Chris Wilson
Hello, on 08/12/2014 07:21 you wrote: I'm hearing the same signal in northern New Hampshire. Very strong 73, Frits W1FVB This is audible here in the UK and elicited many comments on 160 meters last night. Seen as oblique striations on SDR receiver displays and audible as a clicking