Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-09 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/07/2012 01:30 PM, Tom Van Baak wrote: It might be a stupid question, but what is the spike at the top for? It's just plastic; not for lightning. For me it keeps birds from sitting on the top of the radome and dropping liquid gps signal attenuators. This is actually an improvement over

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Chuck, I usually see GPS antennae flashed by lightning: have succedeed opening and repairing a couple of them but at times they are too bad to do anything. I use a network analyzer to test them after repairing here at work. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM, gary li...@lazygranch.com wrote: Going

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread cfo
On Mon, 02 Apr 2012 15:28:40 -0700, Bob Martin wrote: Bill-- The Thunderbolt wants a higher gain antenna than most standard GPS receivers. I tried standard Garmin active antennas, and while they worked (I have a good view of the sky), signal levels could be better. Best match probably

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
The Symmetricom item 300571554900 you listed below includes a GPS. It is not just an antenna. Rob Kimberley -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: 03 April 2012 15:31 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread cfo
On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:40:05 +0100, Rob Kimberley wrote: The Symmetricom item 300571554900 you listed below includes a GPS. It is not just an antenna. Rob Kimberley Oopzz , good catch (sorry) 280847506469 (us) 320878139168 (cn) Might be better cfo

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Rob Kimberley
They look OK. :-) -Original Message- From: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-boun...@febo.com] On Behalf Of cfo Sent: 03 April 2012 15:51 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt On Tue, 03 Apr 2012 15:40:05 +0100, Rob Kimberley wrote

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread shalimr9
Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt Hi Didier, I have one of the Trimble Bullet antennas, that was supposed to be from a working system, but it is deaf as a post... really dead. Given

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread shalimr9
: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt Sent: Apr 3, 2012 12:15 AM c...@omen.com said: Presumably a timing antenna would block low elevation signals to reduce multipath. Maybe, but there is a software aspect to the filter. You get to select the elevation angle. I don't remember seeing any specs

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
and such, so it is definitely not useless, but it is not the same as having a good antenna in the first place. Didier KO4BB --Original Message-- From: Hal Murray Sender: time-nuts-boun...@febo.com To: Time-Nuts ReplyTo: Time-Nuts Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt Sent

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread shalimr9
: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt Of course the elevation mask is only software and doesn't prevent the bad signal from entering the antenna but then the signal will not despread and should cause no harm to the computations. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:19 PM, shali...@gmail.com wrote: The elevation

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt Of course the elevation mask is only software and doesn't prevent the bad signal from entering the antenna but then the signal will not despread and should cause no harm to the computations. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread bg
Typical chokerings are L1/L2 geodetic antennas. There is however simple L1-only chokerings available from time to time on *bay. I have often seen them as low as in the $50 range. Orginal use I think was for DGPS reference stations. Most seem to be the Aeroantenna model in the url below.

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Azelio Boriani
Yes, there was an antenna with the sting months ago, now that I see your PDF I remember but can't remember the price and the brand. On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:05 PM, b...@lysator.liu.se wrote: Typical chokerings are L1/L2 geodetic antennas. There is however simple L1-only chokerings available

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-03 Thread Hal Murray
shali...@gmail.com said: I got it with a red box Thunderbolt I bought from a lit member a long time ago. It has some obvious signs of experience being outside. It is possible that moisture got inside. Maybe I should try to take it apart? Not sure how to open it without breaking the radome.

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread gary
I found these at a local surplus shop. $15 each. It worked on the Starloc. I got the 240 version which has high gain. The Starloc is a bit deaf. So to pick an antenna for the Tbolt, it should meet gain requirements and voltage. Marine grade is kind of overkill. Potentially the marine grade

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R
The booster amps used for satellite dishes work on GPS as well. I used one when I was feeding two Thunderbolts thru a splitter. On 04/02/2012 03:28 PM, Bob Martin wrote: Bill-- The Thunderbolt wants a higher gain antenna than most standard GPS receivers. I tried standard Garmin active

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Jerry Mulchin
Here is the antenna I purchased from Ebay (China). This is a Lucent 40dB timing antenna that should work for any GPS receiver. Mine took about 2 weeks to get here and there were no problems getting it. This unit is currently available for 'buy it now at $28 dollars.

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Bob Martin k6...@comcast.net wrote: Bill-- The Thunderbolt wants a higher gain antenna than most standard GPS receivers.  I tried standard Garmin active antennas, and while they worked (I have a good view of the sky), signal levels could be better. Best

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Pete Lancashire
All gone .. I got one. I'm happy for $26 but the thing was pretty badly treated in its life and the seal did not look well. If yours is as knocked around I'd suggest pulling it apart and use a bit of sealer (RTV etc) Now to come up with a mount, they are more rare and usually go for more then the

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:00 PM, Jerry Mulchin jmulc...@cox.net wrote: Here is the antenna I purchased from Ebay (China). This is a Lucent 40dB timing antenna that should work for any GPS receiver. Mine took about 2 weeks to get here and there were no problems getting it. This unit is

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Orin Eman
There are still some listed at GBP 19.00. Search for lucent 40db. Orin. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 4:14 PM, Pete Lancashire p...@petelancashire.comwrote: All gone .. I got one. I'm happy for $26 but the thing was pretty badly treated in its life and the seal did not look well. If yours is as

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for T-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Dan Rae
There's a lot of five Racal survey antennae on eBay, lot 370600485855 which have been round at least once before. I use one of these with a T'bolt and it performs extremely well; I'm not sure what one would do with the other four however... 5 Volt operation, TNC connector, c. 30 dB gain.

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Didier Juges
I have a Symetricom 58532A which I bought on eBay for $50 with shipping. That is probably the best antenna you can get, and it won't break the bank. I also have a Trimble Bullet, the antenna that was designed to go with the Tunderbolt. It is a very good antenna also, but harder to find, and it has

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Mike S
On 4/2/2012 5:39 PM, Bill Riches wrote: Question is that I am looking for suggestions for GPS antenna for t-bolt. I use an Andrew GPS-QBW-26N (quadrifilar). 26 db amp + 4 db antenna gain, through an HP 58516 distribution amp. Works well for me.

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Chuck Harris
Hi Didier, I have one of the Trimble Bullet antennas, that was supposed to be from a working system, but it is deaf as a post... really dead. Given that it is supposed to be more than 30db gain, it should do better than any of the hockey puck antennas. I wonder if there is a common failure

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Chuck Harris
Here is a picture of the guts of the antenna that was made for the Thunderbolt. They don't appear to have gone to much effort to have a high horizon. -Chuck Harris Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: I got a mushroom shaped antenna along with my Thunderbolt. It came with some rg58 terminated

Re: [time-nuts] Antenna for t-bolt

2012-04-02 Thread Hal Murray
c...@omen.com said: Presumably a timing antenna would block low elevation signals to reduce multipath. Maybe, but there is a software aspect to the filter. You get to select the elevation angle. I don't remember seeing any specs about the filtering angles of various antennas. Has anybody

Re: [time-nuts] antenna for t-bolt

2008-05-20 Thread John Miles
These antennas work very well with the Thunderbolt: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=280228924879 Pyrojoseph is a great seller. I've bought a lot of stuff from him over the years. This antenna will need a BNC-male/SMA-female adapter for use with the BNC-F adapter packaged with

Re: [time-nuts] antenna for t-bolt

2008-05-20 Thread Didier Juges
I have a Trimble Bullet, a Symmetricom HP 58532 and an inexpensive mag-mount patch antenna. All are amplified. As far as how many sats they see, they are roughly equivalent. Of course, the Bullet and HP units have narrow filters and better defined capture range (to reject reflections from the

Re: [time-nuts] antenna for t-bolt

2008-05-20 Thread Richard W. Solomon
TAPR is selling a nice antenna for $10. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Mark Amos [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 20, 2008 3:12 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] antenna for t-bolt tvb or others on the list, Any recommendations on an inexpensive antenna to use with