Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Jeremy Nichols
pped. But for the > grace of G-d, the house would have burnt down. A thermal fuse in the > transformer would have prevented several thousand dollars of damage. > That would have paid for over a thousand thermal fuses. > > πθ°μΩω±√·Γλ > WB0KVV > > -------- Forwarded message -

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Van Horn, David
There's an excellent article out there on the web called "Low Voltage, the incompetent ignition source" I highly recommend a read. I dealt with a case like this a couple years ago. Failed fet in an H bridge caused a fault which the brick SMPS picked up as a short, and went into "hiccup" mode

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Donald E. Pauly
Forwarded message -- From: David G. McGaw <david.g.mc...@dartmouth.edu> Date: Wed, May 10, 2017 at 8:20 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> I too have had a fuse

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread ewkehren via time-nuts
11:20 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse I too have had a fuse open up due to a failed thermistor in a HP10811. David N1HAC On 5/10/17 7:43 PM, Dan Rae wrote: > As

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread David G. McGaw
I too have had a fuse open up due to a failed thermistor in a HP10811. David N1HAC On 5/10/17 7:43 PM, Dan Rae wrote: As I reported the last time this subject came up, or maybe the time before, the only time I had an open thermal fuse was in a 10811 that had an open thermistor. I was able

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-11 Thread Hal Murray
kb...@n1k.org said: > The is related to safety (full time power on). As it worked out, the fuse > did not help them in that respect. The Fed’s still ruled the gear had to be > shut off at night. Could you please say more... Does that mean unplugging gear with always-on OCXOs? Or dumping

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-10 Thread Richard (Rick) Karlquist
The view from inside HP when I worked with the people who designed and built the 10811 some 35-40 years ago was that: 1. 10811 ovens rarely fail. 2. When they do fail, it is rarely because the oven runs away. I know I have never encountered a runaway. No one at HP had a "trophy" on their

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-10 Thread Dan Rae
As I reported the last time this subject came up, or maybe the time before, the only time I had an open thermal fuse was in a 10811 that had an open thermistor. I was able to replace that and get the OCXO working, but if the fuse had been replaced with a wire link I'm sure the entire oven

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-10 Thread Bob kb8tq
t or eBay which > have a higher proportion of nuisance blows. > > πθ°μΩω±√·Γλ > WB0KVV > > From: Mike Feher <mfe...@eozinc.com> > Date: Tue, May 9, 2017 at 9:10 PM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse > To: Discussion of precise time and freq

Re: [time-nuts] Fwd: HP10811 Oscillator Thermal Fuse

2017-05-09 Thread Mike Feher
Respectfully I disagree. I have totally shorted out numerous oscillator’s fuses with no problems. The design of those thermal fuses makes them vulnerable to opening just due to years of use without problem, in any of the electronics. My shorted out oscillators still work. Ideally, if handy, it