Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:14:55 +0200 Magnus Danielson wrote: > Do we have the raw measurements in a readable format? Yes, you can find them at http://time.kinali.ch/phase_data/luciano/ Attila Kinali -- It is upon moral qualities that a society is ultimately founded. All

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi, All I have seen so far is an ADEV plot, and that is not a good tool to estimate such systematics in. I would like to see the phase & frequency data, it would probably be better for this type of diagnostics. Do we have the raw measurements in a readable format? Cheers, Magnus On 06/14/2018

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi I’d say both have a “something” with a period of roughly 18 to 20 hours in their data runs. Bob > On Jun 14, 2018, at 4:54 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:19:58 -0700 > wrote: > >> Would be interesting to see a long plot of the two 5065 against each >> other! > > I

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-14 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 13 Jun 2018 08:19:58 -0700 wrote: > Would be interesting to see a long plot of the two 5065 against each > other! I had a look at Luciano's data and it's probably safe to say, that the instability of the super-5065 would be the limit. The unmodified 5065 is incredibly stable (once you

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-11 Thread Achim Gratz
Attila Kinali writes: > Unfortunately, I have no application that can read XPS files available. > Can you send it as something more standard? Okular opens the file without problems. MuPDF should do the same, but I can't test it at the moment. Regards, Achim. -- +<[Q+ Matrix-12 WAVE#46+305

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-11 Thread Attila Kinali
Ciao Luciano, On Fri, 8 Jun 2018 14:05:24 +0200 "tim...@timeok.it" wrote: >Here a ten days simultaneously run of the A and B version compared with my > HP Z3816A GPSDO. Thanks a lot! Unfortunately, I have no application that can read XPS files available. Can you send it as something

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
1 to 100 sec that I > had never had the chance to see for lack of an instrument as your A7. > ciao, > Luciano > > > Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > A time-nuts@febo.com > Cc > Data Fri, 8 Jun 2018 15:46:50 +0200 > Oggetto Re

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread tim...@timeok.it
to 100 sec that I had never had the chance to see for lack of an instrument as your A7. ciao, Luciano Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com A time-nuts@febo.com Cc Data Fri, 8 Jun 2018 15:46:50 +0200 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065 This is a

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
rify that these measures have the objective of verifying the > > medium / long term stability and not the short term stability of the Super > > version I agree it is improved.. > > Luciano > > > > > > Da "Bob kb8tq" kb...@n1k.org > > A "Lucian

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread tim...@timeok.it
c Data Fri, 8 Jun 2018 09:02:34 -0400 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065 Hi Ok, so this question should not come as a great surprise: Does one of the 5065’s have about 3X the temperature sensitivity of the other? ( or pressure or humidity ). Bob > O

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-08 Thread Bob kb8tq
the A and B version compared with my > HP Z3816A GPSDO. > Luciano > > > Da "time-nuts" time-nuts-boun...@febo.com > A kb...@n1k.org > Cc "time-nuts" time-nuts@febo.com > Data Wed, 6 Jun 2018 08:18:27 +0200 > Oggetto Re: [time-nut

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-06 Thread Bob kb8tq
eople can compare your setting to there’s does need to be part of the process. Bob > > > > Da "Bob kb8tq" kb...@n1k.org > A "Luciano Paramithiotti" tim...@timeok.it,"Discussion of precise time and > frequency measurement" time-nuts@feb

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-06 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Tue, 5 Jun 2018 10:05:34 -0400 Oggetto Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065 Hi It is pretty well known that without “help” ( beyond the filter stuff on the super) the 5065 has fairly poor temperature stability and somewhat variable response to pressure and humidity. Taking two samples

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-05 Thread Bob kb8tq
Hi It is pretty well known that without “help” ( beyond the filter stuff on the super) the 5065 has fairly poor temperature stability and somewhat variable response to pressure and humidity. Taking two samples right off the production line likely would have given you different long term data

Re: [time-nuts] Raw phase data of super-5065

2018-06-05 Thread tim...@timeok.it
Hi Attila, I am doing the long therm stability test on a couple of HP5065, one original A type, the second B or "super" compared with my best long therm stability, a GPSDO HPz3816A. This test will be 30 days long. It is a second test, with a second couple of HP5065A/B, to verify the