Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-31 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Ok, how long will this driving around take? If you are driving continuously with no GPS for 24 hours, your system needs to hold 100 ms for 86,400 seconds. With a fixed frequency offset (rather than drift) that’s 0.1 / 86400 = 1.12 ppm. If you want to spend money. Modify the clock in one

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-31 Thread Chris Albertson
If you already have a bunch f PCs running NTP why add one more? Just run the PPS from your GS to one of the existing PCs Anklet t be a stratum one. It's zero cost. For hold over Orphan mode works well and will meet your 100 ms requirement. Again, it is zero cost. On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 3:53

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-30 Thread David J Taylor
Hi sorry for a possibly OT post. Has anyone had practical experience with small commercially available time servers / ntp servers suitable for mobile use in a vehicle. The use case is I am in need of an accurate (ie. within 100 ms) time source for several pc's in moving vehicle.Being

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-25 Thread Adrian Godwin
I hesitate to say this for fear of provoking a fault, but although I wouldn't consider them especially good, they're not universal failures. I have a Pi running a house control and logging system that has an uptime of 230 days despite being largely unattended (I'm not on site - it doesn't get any

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-24 Thread Attila Kinali
On Wed, 13 May 2015 09:07:44 -0500 bownes bow...@gmail.com wrote: For the advocates of RPi solutions, I put about half a dozen in to support some non mission critical infrastructure about a year ago. We are using them for for logging, reading QR codes, running a vending machine, kiosk web

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-24 Thread Oz-in-DFW
On 5/24/2015 5:46 AM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Wed, 13 May 2015 09:07:44 -0500 bownes bow...@gmail.com wrote: For the advocates of RPi solutions, I put about half a dozen in to support some non mission critical infrastructure about a year ago. We are using them for for logging, reading QR

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-24 Thread Frister
I've noticed that on my RPI as well, Time stability improved greatly when connected to a simple and well cooled 7805 voltage regulator. My RPI (GPS PPS) runs at about +/- 2 uS on a somewhat medium CPU sytem load. Good enough for my needs. Frits On 5/24/15, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote:

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-15 Thread David Bengtson
Mark- You might want to look at FEI-Zyfer, and their Nanosync line of products http://www.fei-zyfer.com/time_sync.htm I'm not sure about the pricing, but they look to meet your other requirements Dave On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com wrote: Hi sorry

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-14 Thread lincoln
Might look at this: http://qulsar.com/Products/Managed_Timing_Engines/MTE_Board_P6X.html It has PTP, sNTP, comes with a TCXO, OCXO as an option or bring your own oscillator through the 40 pin connector. Link On May 12, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com wrote: Hi

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-13 Thread Mark Spencer
Thanks for this. This (and the other responses) were the type of answers I was hoping for. The budget is probably up to several thousand for a robust COTS product that won't add significant operational hassles. (Kludging a laptop to run as an NTP server would be an example of a solution

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-13 Thread Chris Albertson
The quickest no-cost way to get decent hold over if all you need is about 100 ms is to configure all you NTP users to be part of an orphan network. When the outside NTP server is lost the island will look at the set of local NTP systems that agree with each other. So you in effect use the most

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-13 Thread Mark Spencer
Thanks. Yep running an extra Dc to Dc converter is an option but we already have access to clean 28 and 13.8 VDC supplies with some extra capacity. We could likely provide up to a 100 watts of power for this system (I doubt it would need that much.) The hold over requirement is in the range

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-13 Thread Hal Murray
m...@alignedsolutions.com said: Has anyone had practical experience with small commercially available time servers / ntp servers suitable for mobile use in a vehicle. The use case is I am in need of an accurate (ie. within 100 ms) time source for several pc's in moving vehicle.

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-12 Thread Bob Darlington
What's your budget? I've done this with 1U sized NTP servers from Symmetricom (S300 and S350 systems) for mobile military use. These are a few thousand bucks a pop. They're rugged, and held up just fine in places the military goes.Compared to the rest of the system I was working on, this was

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-12 Thread Edesio Costa e Silva
Hi! You can try Laureline GPS NTP Server https://www.tindie.com/products/gxti/laureline-gps-ntp-server/. I have no personal experience with this box but it seems to satisfy all your requirements. Edésio On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:11:52AM -0700, Mark Spencer wrote: Hi sorry for a possibly OT

Re: [time-nuts] Small time server for mobile use.

2015-05-12 Thread Pete Stephenson
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:11 PM, Mark Spencer m...@alignedsolutions.com wrote: Hi sorry for a possibly OT post. Has anyone had practical experience with small commercially available time servers / ntp servers suitable for mobile use in a vehicle. I don't know about any commercially-available