Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread Rob Kimberley
I'm not using any at the moment, but then all my GPS antennae are indoors (long story!). Have been involved with supplying protection to clients over the years, and in the main, have been RF surge suppressor devices such as used by Meinberg http://www.meinberg.de/english/products/cn_ube.htm

Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable

2008-02-29 Thread Bruce Lanning
My Trimble ACE-III Has been tracking PRN32. Works AOK. Bruce - Original Message - From: Morris Odell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 1:22 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 useable Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:49:40 +0100 (CET) From: Magnus

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread Mike S
At 04:40 PM 2/28/2008, Matthew Smith wrote... Is anyone implementing any form of lightning protection for their GPS-attached equipment? I use an arrestor, something like this: http://www.alphadeltacom.com/tt3g50.html . That's not the brand I have, but it's similar.

[time-nuts] Antenna problems

2008-02-29 Thread Bill Hawkins
Have a pair of HP 58532 GPS antennas mounted four feet apart on an outdoor mast that is below the horizon due to hills. Bought a 100 foot roll of RG-8U, cut it in half and attached N connectors to both ends. Physical distance from radio to antenna is about 40 feet, but I wanted identical lengths.

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread Jason Rabel
I have lightning protector that uses those gas tubes. I have yet to hook it up though... My GPS antenna is mounted on a metal building so I'm probably a prime candidate for a lightning attractor. The antenna is mounted on a plastic pole giving a little isolation from the building itself though...

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread Tom Van Baak
RF gas-based lightning surge protectors are widely available; look on eBay for items with words like: Huber Suhner Polyphaser EMP surge lightning suppressor protector RGT gas For example, http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?satitle=Polyphaser+protector

[time-nuts] VP oncore problem

2008-02-29 Thread Morris Odell
Hi all, I wonder if anyone can help me with a problem I'm having with a VP Oncore receiver I am building something which includes one of these receivers and it communicates with the host microcontroller via the VP's serial binary link. The host receives messages from the VP just fine. The

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread Richard W. Solomon
ICE Electronics also has a line of surge protectors. Unlike others, they include a resistor to ground to bleed off static build-up. I se these on all my antennas. 73, Dick, W1KSZ -Original Message- From: Tom Van Baak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Feb 29, 2008 3:50 PM To: Discussion of precise

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread randy warner
TVB Et al, In my experience (horror stories from the field) they have worked well. RF characteristics are pretty good for all. I have used several of the Citel units myself. Remember, the surge protector will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to protect the antenna. Their sole intent is to prevent large

Re: [time-nuts] VP oncore problem

2008-02-29 Thread randy warner
Morris, Are you getting real responses, or is the VP just reporting its current settings? If it receives a message it does not recognize due to formatting errors it will just report what its current settings are instead of acting on the command. I'm not sure what would happen if it got a series

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Tom, couple of problems with these gas discharge devices: they need a significant voltage to trip, and usually may only help when the hit is a vicinity hit, not a direct hit. For direct hits, the goal is to prevent human casualties, and fires. I don't think any sensitive RF receiver

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread Matthew Smith
Quoth randy warner at 2008-03-01 09:51... ... Remember, the surge protector will do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to protect the antenna. Their sole intent is to prevent large surges from getting into your electronics, house wiring, fingers, toes, etc. The receiver will be toast most likely, unless the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread SAIDJACK
Hi Matt, this may not work for you, but the new receivers coming onto the market are amazingly sensitive. I get full signal strength inside our wooden house on a Sirf-based receiver we are evaluating. I also get 8 Sats and more inside a metal building where we don't even get Cell-phone

[time-nuts] SVN23/PRN32 failure...

2008-02-29 Thread Magnus Danielson
Hi! So, now the report of GPS failures due to SVN23/PRN32 starts to show up... lots of Swedish Sea-authority had several of their ships dissapearing from the AIS system on Wen. They already claim correlationto SVN23/PRN32 set to healthy...

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread SAIDJACK
Forgot to mention, I put that diode and inductor inside my HP GPS Distribution amps retrofitting all of them, it fits quite well. HP uses a similar inductor (but smaller current capacity) to feed antenna power into the Antenna, so the effect of this is negligible. But caveat-emptor:

[time-nuts] Coaxial Lightning Arrestors

2008-02-29 Thread Stan, W1LE
Hello The Net: At one time the ICE lightning arrestors did not pass DC, so DC on the coax center conductor will be blocked and will not get to the preamplifier, up front at the antenna element. Other lightning arrestors are simply a 50 ohm coaxial line with a gas discharge tube between the

Re: [time-nuts] GPS-Attached Equipment Lightning Protection

2008-02-29 Thread Alan Melia
Hi All, all the comment has been about in-line protectors so far. We in the UK do dot have the ferocity of lightning that is seen in some parts of the USA but surely like all problems prevention is better. It is probably not 100% but would it not be better to have a higher metal rod say 6 feet